Re: CVS support at SourceForge and Nov. 30

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> On Dec 1, 2017, at 6:38 PM, Alexander Hansen =
<[email protected]> wrote:
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>> On Dec 1, 2017, at 09:05, Alexander Hansen =
<[email protected]> wrote:
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>>> On Dec 1, 2017, at 05:35, Max Horn <[email protected]> wrote:
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>>> Dear all,
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>>> SF.net meant to disable CVS commits yesterday, but it seems they =
have not yet (at least I was just able to commit something).
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>>> I have been badly out of the loop, but: is anybody working on a =
transition plan? It seems high time for one, no? It seems we need at =
least this, in order:
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>>> 1. A fink release with selfupdate-git or -svn support (done!)
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>> It=E2=80=99s in master but a release hasn=E2=80=99t been tagged yet.
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>>> 2. A full migration of the CVS repository to SVN or GIT (status?)
>>>  and disable write access to the CVS repository for everybody =
(except for handful of admins, so they can perform the next step)
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>> I=E2=80=99m not sure what the repository status is.
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>> I would like folks to stop using *just* IRC and also record issues =
and the like on github.com/fink/fink so that we don=E2=80=99t have to =
rely on people=E2=80=99s memories, fragile IRC bots, or people being =
logged in to IRC all the time (I don=E2=80=99t even open my laptop when =
I get home some days).
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>> I just sent out a message with a soft freeze announcement.  I=E2=80=99l=
l adjust CVSROOT later on.
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>>> 3. A fink release (with an .info file in the CVS repository) which =
disables selfupdate-cvs, and instead prompts the user to switch to the =
-git or -svn variant.
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>> And how, exactly, should this be done?  A diff or PR against current =
master would be great.  I don=E2=80=99t have a lot of focused time or =
available CPUs on my machine most workdays, so it=E2=80=99s hard to look =
into the code, make modifications, and spin up test update cases.
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>>> Ideally, around step 2, all maintainers would be notified how to =
access the new distribution, I guess?
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>> Also:
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>> 4.  The rsync mirrors need to switch from using the CVS repository to =
using GitHub as the basis for updates.
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>>> Is anybody working on this? If not, once CVS write access is down =
for good, I fear lots of Fink users will be stranded and will require =
manual work to migrate to git/svn.
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>> IMO it was a bit of a jerk move for SF.net to schedule it this way, =
since US people are just barely back up to speed after Thanksgiving. =
That being said, I slept for quite a bit of the holiday weekend because =
I needed to do that.
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>> Honestly, lots of Fink users strand themselves by updating their OSes =
before updating Fink, so we=E2=80=99re used to that.  The specter of =
user inconvenience doesn=E2=80=99t add more productive hours to my day, =
unfortunately.
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>>> Cheers,
>>> Max
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> Well, so much for that idea.  It took effect.  We=E2=80=99re down to =
only pserver checkouts :
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> I guess our update strategy is now:
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> 1)  For people using /sw, use =E2=80=9Capt-get install fink=E2=80=9D =
to get a new fink, for distributions where we=E2=80=99re currently =
building a bindist.
> 2)  For other folks, grab the appropriate fink*.info file from GitHub =
or inject from master or the 0.43 branch when that goes live.
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> That=E2=80=99ll make testing a bit easier, since there won=E2=80=99t =
be a direct upgrade path.
> --
> Alexander Hansen, Ph.D.
> Fink User Liaison
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Just FYI, I checked and the https://github.com/fink/fink-distributions =
repo is up-to-date. Looks like I was the last one to commit to cvs. I =
successfully switched to it with selfupdate-git.

I suspect that most normal users use rsync rather than cvs updating so =
once rsync points to git they should get updates. It=E2=80=99s fink =
committers that will need the most help.

Daniel


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