Re: upgrade process for big sur/dpkg1.16
Justin Hallett <[email protected]> Fri, 28 Aug 2020 10:13:59 -0600
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--===============2090704207268051781== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_735EC456-6B0C-4E25-AD2E-3108378D6B81" --Apple-Mail=_735EC456-6B0C-4E25-AD2E-3108378D6B81 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 I=E2=80=99m almost positive all the packages are compare (texinfo might = have an extra split) but you can not put dpkg into the 10.5 tree since = it=E2=80=99ll break deb compat. This branch needs a new tree then it = can be added. --- TS http://www.southofheaven.org/ Life begins and ends with chaos, live between the chaos! > On Aug 28, 2020, at 9:59 AM, Alexander Hansen = <[email protected]> wrote: >=20 >=20 >=20 >> On Aug 28, 2020, at 02:42, Hanspeter Niederstrasser = <[email protected]> wrote: >>=20 >> What's the upgrade process for the dpkg1.16 branch and the dists = tree? >>=20 >> Several packages are now essential (e.g. time-date-pm and xz) and = will have to be moved from their present subfolders in dists to 'base'. = Also, some base packages have newer versions than what's in the dpkg1.16 = branch source (e.g. libiconv and texinfo). But the dpkg1.16 branch = versions have needed changes that might be incompatible with older fink = installs, so we can't just copy what's currently in dist to the dpkg1.16 = branch, or push the dpkg1.16 branch versions directly into dists. Or are = dpkg1.16 packages compatible with legacy dpkg? >>=20 >> Hanspeter >>=20 >>=20 >=20 >=20 > At minimum, the most logical thing to do would be to update libiconv, = texinfo, et. al. in the dpkg1.16 branch and also apply the = branch-specific changes - i.e. merge them in a logical sense if not in a = Git sense. I hate to say it, but this might be a case for a new distro = and clean reinstall rather than update in place. I know we just did = that for Catalina, but my impression is that Big Sur is going to change = a bunch of stuff. >=20 > --=20 > Alexander Hansen, Ph.D. > Fink User Liaison >=20 >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > fink-core mailing list > [email protected] = <mailto:[email protected]> > List archive: > http://news.gmane.org/gmane.os.apple.fink.core = <http://news.gmane.org/gmane.os.apple.fink.core> > Subscription management: > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-core = <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-core> --Apple-Mail=_735EC456-6B0C-4E25-AD2E-3108378D6B81 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 <html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; = -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D"">I=E2=80= =99m almost positive all the packages are compare (texinfo might have an = extra split) but you can not put dpkg into the 10.5 tree since it=E2=80=99= ll break deb compat. This branch needs a new tree then it can be = added.<br class=3D""><div class=3D""> <span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"border-collapse: separate; = color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; = font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; = line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; = text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; = -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: = 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: = auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div style=3D"word-wrap: = break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: = after-white-space; " class=3D""><p style=3D"margin-top: 0px; = margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal = normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; " class=3D"">---</p><p = style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; = margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; " = class=3D"">TS</p><p style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; = margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal = 12px/normal Helvetica; " class=3D""><a = href=3D"http://www.southofheaven.org/" = class=3D"">http://www.southofheaven.org/</a></p><p style=3D"margin-top: = 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: = normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; " class=3D""><font = class=3D"Apple-style-span" color=3D"#0000EE"><span = class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"text-decoration: underline; = "></span></font></p><p style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; = margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal = 12px/normal Helvetica; " class=3D"">Life begins and ends with chaos, = live between the chaos!</p> </div> </span></div><div><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div= class=3D"">On Aug 28, 2020, at 9:59 AM, Alexander Hansen <<a = href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" = class=3D"">[email protected]</a>> wrote:</div><br = class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><br = style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: = 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: = normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; = text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; = -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=3D""><br = style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: = 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: = normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; = text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; = -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" = class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; = font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; = font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: = start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; = widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; = -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=3D"">On = Aug 28, 2020, at 02:42, Hanspeter Niederstrasser <<a = href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" = class=3D"">[email protected]</a>> wrote:<br class=3D""><br = class=3D"">What's the upgrade process for the dpkg1.16 branch and the = dists tree?<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Several packages are now = essential (e.g. time-date-pm and xz) and will have to be moved from = their present subfolders in dists to 'base'. Also, some base packages = have newer versions than what's in the dpkg1.16 branch source (e.g. = libiconv and texinfo). But the dpkg1.16 branch versions have needed = changes that might be incompatible with older fink installs, so we can't = just copy what's currently in dist to the dpkg1.16 branch, or push the = dpkg1.16 branch versions directly into dists. Or are dpkg1.16 packages = compatible with legacy dpkg?<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Hanspeter<br = class=3D""><br class=3D""><br class=3D""></blockquote><br = style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: = 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: = normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; = text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; = -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=3D""><br = style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: = 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: = normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; = text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; = -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=3D""><span = style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: = 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: = normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; = text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; = -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; = display: inline !important;" class=3D"">At minimum, the most logical = thing to do would be to update libiconv, texinfo, et. al. in the = dpkg1.16 branch and also apply the branch-specific changes - i.e. merge = them in a logical sense if not in a Git sense. I hate to say it, = but this might be a case for a new distro and clean reinstall rather = than update in place. I know we just did that for Catalina, but my = impression is that Big Sur is going to change a bunch of = stuff.</span><br style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: = Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: = normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; = text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; = word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: = none;" class=3D""><br style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: = Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: = normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; = text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; = word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: = none;" class=3D""><span style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: = Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: = normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; = text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; = word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: = none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class=3D"">--<span = class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><br = style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: = 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: = normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; = text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; = -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=3D""><span = style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: = 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: = normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; = text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; = -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; = display: inline !important;" class=3D"">Alexander Hansen, = Ph.D.</span><br style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); 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