Re: Merging cygwin-utils and cygwin-utils-extra?

Brian Inglis via Cygwin-apps <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.os.cygwin.applications
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On 2025-08-17 05:41, Christian Franke via Cygwin-apps wrote:
> Mark Geisert via Cygwin-apps wrote:
>> On 8/15/2025 2:31 AM, Joshuah Hurst via Cygwin-apps wrote:
>>> Could the packages cygwin-utils and cygwin-utils-extra be merged,
>>> please? MSYS2 already did this, and it's always annoying that there is
>>> a little set of tools in an extra package. I could understand the
>>> separation from a disk space point of view in the 1990, but with
>>> today's 256GB SSD disks in low end laptops, it doesn't make much sense
>>> anymore.

>> That hadn't occurred to me, nor has anyone else suggested it.  It does make 
>> sense though.
>>
>> I'm in the process of building an update for cygutils-extra, so that will be 
>> done as it has been in the past.  But I'll consider combining the three 
>> cygutils packages into one for later releases.
>> Thanks for the input,

> AFAICS the split has been done 12+ years ago to resolve some dependency problems 
> of a "Base" installation. Discussion thread started May 2013:
> https://sourceware.org/pipermail/cygwin/2013-May/208461.html
> with 2 followups in June:
> https://sourceware.org/pipermail/cygwin/2013-June/208573.html

Note also cygutils-extra depends on libstdc++6 which is large 2.2MB for a Base 
dependency and has its own dependencies, and cygutils-x11 presumes (but does not 
depend on) the X11 infrastructure including desktop-file-utils and 
shared-mime-info and their dependencies libglib2.0, et. al. are installed.

-- 
Take care. Thanks, Brian Inglis              Calgary, Alberta, Canada

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