Re: djgpp packages could be dropped severely outdated

On 2025-08-27 15:28, Brian Inglis via Cygwin-apps wrote:
> On 2025-08-27 12:39, Jon Turney via Cygwin-apps wrote:
>> On 25/08/2025 00:07, Brian Inglis via Cygwin-apps wrote:
>>> Only depend on each other:
>>>
>>> $ cygcheck-dep -cNqS djgpp-{gcc-core,binutils,runtime}
>>>   djgpp-gcc-core: is recursively needed for ( djgpp-gcc-ada djgpp-gcc- 
>>> fortran djgpp-gcc-g++ djgpp-gcc-objc djgpp-gcc-objc++ )
>>>   djgpp-binutils: is recursively needed for ( djgpp-gcc-ada djgpp-gcc- core 
>>> djgpp-gcc-fortran djgpp-gcc-g++ djgpp-gcc-objc djgpp-gcc-objc++ )
>>>   djgpp-runtime: is recursively needed for ( djgpp-gcc-ada djgpp-gcc- core 
>>> djgpp-gcc-fortran djgpp-gcc-g++ djgpp-gcc-objc djgpp-gcc-objc++ )
>>>
>>> $ cygcheck -p 'djgpp-\(gcc-core\|binutils\|runtime\)'
>>> Found 7 matches for djgpp-\(gcc-core\|binutils\|runtime\)
>>> djgpp-binutils-2.25-2-src - djgpp-binutils-src: Binutils for DJGPP toolchain 
>>> (source)
>>> djgpp-runtime-2.05-1-src - djgpp-runtime-src: DJGPP toolchain C runtime (source)
>>> djgpp-binutils-debuginfo-2.25-2 - djgpp-binutils-debuginfo: Debug info for 
>>> djgpp-binutils
>>> djgpp-binutils-2.25-2 - djgpp-binutils: Binutils for DJGPP toolchain
>>> djgpp-gcc-core-5.3.0-1 - djgpp-gcc-core: GCC for DJGPP toolchain (C)
>>> djgpp-gcc-core-5.4.0-1 - djgpp-gcc-core: GCC for DJGPP toolchain (C)
>>> djgpp-runtime-2.05-1 - djgpp-runtime: DJGPP toolchain C runtime
>>>
>>> Current actual djgpp versions are 2.35.1 binutils and gcc 14.2; see:
>>>
>>>      https://www.delorie.com/pub/djgpp/current/v2gnu/?C=M;O=D

>> Yeah, I agreed last time [1] :S.
>>
>> Feel free to vault the packages and remove it from the package list.
>>
>> (I try to remember to also check that the packaging git repo history is up to 
>> date before doing those steps, as well)

> Checked latest versions in repo and two gcc versions still available: vaulted all.

Only messages I got from issuing vault commands were:

vault: package 'djgpp-binutils' version '2.25-2' marked as expirable
vault: package 'djgpp-gcc' version '5.3.0-1' marked as expirable
vault: package 'djgpp-gcc' version '5.4.0-1' marked as expirable
vault: package 'djgpp-runtime' version '2.05-1' marked as expirable

but none of the usual vault emails and they still appear in the setup master and 
git:

$ ssh cygwin info djgpp-
hello Brian_Inglis, this is cygwin@server2 running gitolite3 on git 2.43.7

  R W	git/cygwin-packages/djgpp-binutils
  R W	git/cygwin-packages/djgpp-gcc
  R W	git/cygwin-packages/djgpp-runtime

Please ask on cygwin-apps for more help

>> More generally, perhaps we need to clarify the policy on removing unmaintained 
>> packages from a vague "may be pulled" in [2].
>>
>> How about: packages which are
>> * unmaintained
>> * and, out of date (version is less than current upstream version)
>> * and, aren't in the Base category or a dependency of something in the Base 
>> category
>> * and, more than X years old
>> will be removed.
>>
>>
>> The report at [3] might help determine the impact of various values for X.
>>
>>
>> [1] https://cygwin.com/pipermail/cygwin-apps/2023-September/043147.html
>> [2] https://cygwin.com/packaging-contributors-guide.html
>> [3] https://cygwin.com/packages/reports/unmaintained.html
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Take care. Thanks, Brian Inglis              Calgary, Alberta, Canada

La perfection est atteinte                   Perfection is achieved
non pas lorsqu'il n'y a plus rien à ajouter  not when there is no more to add
mais lorsqu'il n'y a plus rien à retrancher  but when there is no more to cut
                                 -- Antoine de Saint-Exupéry