Re: Disabling COMPAT_FREEBSD4/5/6/7/9 in default kernel configurations

Shawn Webb <[email protected]> Sat, 11 May 2024 00:04:43 +0000

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On Sat, May 11, 2024 at 01:38:38AM +0200, [email protected] wrote:
> Hi everyone,
> 
> Warner suggested that I run this by the list. In 2018, a bug report was made for disabling COMPAT_FREEBSD4/5/6/7/9 (there's no 8). 6 years later, I imagine this would be as good of a time as any to do this if there's no obvious problems doing so.
> 
> Here's the bug report: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=231768
> 
> And a pull request in the spirit of the original patch: https://github.com/freebsd/freebsd-src/pull/1228
> 
> I imagine if this sounds like a good idea, it would land in 15.0. Users could always recompile kernels with the old ABI functionality as needed. I feel like we're all a little curious if anything still uses this, and making this kind of change is probably the best way to find out.
> 
> In my opinion, if all goes well, it may be wise to remove the old code in the next major version. Could do the full list, or just FreeBSD 4 and 5 compatibility, for instance. Barring notable negative feedback, of course.
> 
> There were some concerns about Rust, but it sounds like it uses (or used?) FreeBSD 10.X features, which this patch does not remove. On that topic: https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/89058
> 
> Long term, it might be a good idea to enable support for EOL-1, and maybe remove code for EOL-2, of course a less aggressive policy is also possible (EOL-2 and EOL-3?). Getting out of the single digit FreeBSD versions should be a good start, though!
> 
> Appreciate any feedback on this and hopefully we can reach some kind of consensus on how to proceed in 2024.

For what it's worth, just as a little data point, HardenedBSD has
disabled the following in the base amd64 kernel config:

1. COMPAT_FREEBSD4
2. COMPAT_FREEBSD5
3. COMPAT_FREEBSD6
4. COMPAT_FREEBSD7
5. COMPAT_FREEBSD9
6. COMPAT_FREEBSD10
7. COMPAT_FREEBSD32

I'm somewhat debating adding COMPAT_FREEBSD11 to the list. I'll give
that a shot next week and see what happens.

Rust seems to work fine for me.

Thanks,

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