Re: FreeBSD Security Advisory FreeBSD-SA-20:33.openssl

Tomasz CEDRO <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.os.freebsd.security.general
Message-ID <CAM8r67CkuTqesUKUjKJ_piu7EWHSTN7cnWbDiR3q8ifNBNYOYg@mail.gmail.com>
On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 1:57 PM Franco Fichtner wrote:
> > On 11. Dec 2020, at 1:36 PM, Tomasz CEDRO wrote:
> > On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 12:44 PM Franco Fichtner wrote:
> >>> On 11. Dec 2020, at 12:38 PM, Martin Simmons wrote:
> >>>>>>>> On Thu, 10 Dec 2020 22:46:28 -0800, John-Mark Gurney said:
> >>>> What are peoples thoughts on how to address the support mismatch between
> >>>> FreeBSD and OpenSSL?  And how to address it?
> >>> Maybe it would help a little if the packages on pkg.FreeBSD.org all used the
> >>> pkg version of OpenSSL?  Currently, it looks like you have build your own
> >>> ports if you want that.
> >> This pretty much breaks LibreSSL ports usage for binary package consumers.
> > Why not switch to LibreSSL as default? :-)
>
> Good question.
>
> LibreSSL lacks engine and PSK support. TLS 1.3 was tailing behind.  Missing
> CMS also was a large issue for those who needed it.  Someone with more in-
> depth knowledge can probably name more.
>
> The other issue with LibreSSL in general is that third party support is mostly
> ok, but some high profile cases have had issues with it for years: HAProxy,
> OpenVPN, StrongSwan just to name a few.  Having ports contributors and committers
> chase these unthankful quests is probably not worth the overall effort.
>
> It works pretty well as a ports crypto replacement, but for the reasons listed
> above it is probably not going to happen on a default scale.
>
> Also, LibreSSL in base was a failed experiment in HardenedBSD.  Its release cycle
> and support policy is tailored neatly around OpenBSD releases and the attempt
> to break ABI compatibility in packages while you retrofit a new version into
> a minor release can fail pretty spectacularly.
>
> I'm not being skeptical. I helped improve overall LibreSSL support in the ports
> tree since 2015.   The LibreSSL team is doing a great job all things considered.
>
> This is simply the current reality of keeping LibreSSL in ports a steady
> alternative.

Thank you Franco! Too many reasons why not to.. looks like no good
alternative.. at least for now :-)

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CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info
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