Re: removing "su" from coreutils [Re: Fwd: [PULL] su

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On Wednesday 30 May 2012 09:50:57 Karel Zak wrote:
> On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 01:48:29PM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote:
> > On Friday 25 May 2012 04:53:59 Karel Zak wrote:
> > >  login
> > > =20
> > >     - already merged Suse version into original login from utils-linu=
x.
> > >    =20
> > >       The result is PAM-only login(1) with /etc/login.defs support.
> >=20
> > requiring pam is a problem.  i won't be able to convert over to
> > util-linux for utils that are pam-only.
>=20
> Why? More details, please :-)
>=20
> IMHO is better to use PAM everywhere than duplicate non-PAM code and
> assume that the code is correct and well tested. PAM is abstraction,
> the final configuration don't have to be complicated.

PAM is a complete waste of space on embedded devices and controlled systems=
=2E =20
i'm not saying it isn't useful in many setups (perhaps even the majority),=
=20
just that it is entirely unnecessary in a not insignificant number of other=
=20
setups.
=2Dmike

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