Re: removing "su" from coreutils [Re: Fwd: [PULL] su

On 05/24/2012 02:50 PM, P=C3=A1draig Brady wrote:
> Note Fedora and Suse use su from coreutils
> while debian use their own:
> http://pkg-shadow.alioth.debian.org/
>=20
> Note also Fedora has `runuser` which is based on su:
> http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/gitweb/?p=3Dcoreutils.git;a=3Dblob;f=3Dco=
reutils-8.7-runuser.patch;hb=3DHEAD
>=20
> There was also a very related request for
> `runuser` like functionality to be generally available:
> http://bugs.gnu.org/8700
>=20
> It's probably worth bringing runuser with su,
> no matter where they end up.

So with su being removed in favor of the util-linux implementation,
`runuser` is being implemented there too.
I.E. it will be available outside of redhat/fedora/centos/...
in util-linux >=3D 2.22, and so should address http://bugs.gnu.org/8700

Note from previous comments in this thread,
it seems like allowing runser to be built (as an option?)
without requiring PAM, would be useful.

For reference, here are utils with similar functionality:

chid,really
  Mentioned in feature request from debian
    http://bugs.gnu.org/8700

chroot --userspec=3DU:G --groups=3DG1,G2,G3 /
  since coreutils v7.4-16-gc45c51f
  beware of CVE-2005-4890

setuidgid
  coreutils internal only
  http://git.sv.gnu.org/gitweb/?p=3Dcoreutils.git;a=3Dblob;f=3Dsrc/setuid=
gid.c;hb=3DHEAD

sg from pwdutils
  http://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/9699919799/utilities/newgrp.html

sudo -u -g

runas from titantools


cheers,
P=C3=A1draig.