Re: Translucent storage: design, pros, and cons

Barry deFreese <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.os.hurd.l4
Message-ID <[email protected]>
Pierre THIERRY wrote:
> Scribit Jonathan S. Shapiro dies 10/01/2007 hora 18:21:
>   
>> Little progress has been made. I have spent much of the past year
>> trying to ensure that a concrete system design would be able to
>> support the HURD, and I now learn that this effort may have been
>> largely misdirected. Or perhaps not, but it is impossible to know. I
>> feel like I am trying to satisfy a target that sits in the dark
>> refusing to disclose itself and changes shape whenever it seems that I
>> am finally coming to understand it.
>>     
>
> As a user of free software eager to use more secure and flexible
> systems, I'd really like to see HURD become a production-grade OS. Also,
> the design of the new HURD seems to open really exciting possibilities.
>
> But the problem is that it *seems*. It is indeed not yet clear what it
> will look like, and it is a bit frustrating (at least it really seems
> frustrating for Jonathan, and I can tell it's frustrating for me, I
> don't know for others).
>
> The worst is that there seem no way to help, and that's probably a very
> critical issue: if the design principles were eventually clearly stated,
> not only Marcus and Neal could work to sketch a design, and everyone
> could help verify it meets the various criteria that come from the
> design principles.
>
> Maybe it's only misunderstanding, but I feel in a similar way than
> Jonathan about the issues raised by Marcus. The *seem* to appear when
> the previous issue is addressed, and it looks like there's some hidden
> issue behind them.
>
> Wouldn't it be possible to change a bit the way this project works, so
> that Neal and Marcus are no more bottlenecks? I'm pretty confident many
> of us would be more than happy if they could give help. For sure I'm one
> of those.
>
> I'll sketch as many and as precise protocols, use cases and attack
> scenarios as possible to help check a design, and I'm willing to
> contribute code when either part or all of the design is ready.
>
> Impatiently,
> Pierre
>   
Uhm, I really don't want to get into this discussion but isn't it called 
Free Software for a reason?  Marcus and Neal are by no means stopping 
you from creating anything you want.

Enjoy,

Barry
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