Re: GSoC 2018 - Modern cryptographic algorithms to netpgp, netpgpverify

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Hi Alistair,

Please go through the proposal for GSoC project. Here is the link: GSoC
proposal
<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1QayByVOYj2FINohvL4Mr-_Xq9Cb0TnwrrscfXgjPnDo/edit>

Please provide your valuable comments, as to how can I be selected as I
really want to be a part of this experience.

Formatting is not quite good. Please suggest on formatting also, as nothing
was mentioned in the guidelines.

Thanks,
Harsh Khatore

On Wed, Mar 21, 2018 at 11:45 AM, Alistair Crooks <[email protected]> wrote:

> When you read the answers below, I can understand if you think I'm being
> difficult.
>
> But this is how we can work out whether you've understood the task, and
> have thought about how you'd go about it.
>
> On 20 March 2018 at 18:03, Harsh Khatore <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> On Tue 20 Mar, 2018, 9:34 AM Alistair Crooks, <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Yeah, netpgpverify is the new, all-in-one, no pre-reqs codebase solely
>>> for the verification part of signatures.
>>>
>>> ed25519 also needs to be added to netpgp, which is the older and more
>>> crufty code base which covers signing and verification.
>>>
>>
>> So, as netpgpverify is the new code base for verification part, netpgp
>> will be used for only the signing part or for both as it used to do?
>>
>
> See the project specification - both are needed.
>
>
>>
>>
>>> But before any code is touched, we'd need to know what gpg constants
>>> uses for these algorithms, since they're not in RFC 4880, and so we can
>>> interoperate with gpg in verifying and signing.
>>>
>>
>>
>> We can get the ed25519 specifications from RFC8023 and see for the
>> constants but I have a doubt as to what are these constants that you
>> referred?
>>
>
> Look further.
>
> Think of the job that netpgpverify and netpgp do, and how they
> interoperate with other software.
>
>
>>
>>
>>> We need to know what extra parts are needed (from different sources,
>>> along with their licences), and any other prereqs we might need for both
>>> netpgpverify and netpgp.
>>>
>>
>> I am not able to get what do you mean by extra parts and prereqs, can you
>> explain, please?
>>
>
> Think of other things that will be necessary to accomplish the task.
>
> In summary, I'd like to see what you think will be necessary. I'd like to
> see the thoughts that go into how to accomplish a design and programming
> task, what tests are necessary, and what to be wary of in the
> implementation. Not in email, but in the proposal that you write - how you
> will accomplish (and surpass) the goals.
>
> You (and anyone else) should now have enough information -- from the
> project specification, and from previous email --  to generate a proposal
> for the project.
>
> Regards,
> Alistair
>
> PS. One copy of email is enough, thanks :)
>
>
>
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 12:13 AM Alistair Crooks <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Harsh,
>>>
>>> I've been talking to others about it, but yours is the first mail I've
>>> received.
>>>
>>> C proficiency is necessary. C++ not needed.
>>>
>>> I can help you out with any specific questions you have - please mail
>>> them here (i.e. to tech-crypto, CC me).
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Alistair
>>>
>>> On 18 March 2018 at 10:57, Harsh Khatore <[email protected]
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Alistair,
>>>>
>>>> Sorry for contacting you soo late for the above-mentioned project.
>>>> Could you provide me with help regarding the project so that I can work on
>>>> it for GSoC? Also, do you have anyone else preparing for it or can I
>>>> continue with this?
>>>>
>>>> My knowledge of C and C++ languages is intermediate.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Harsh Khatore
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Alistair,<br><br>Please go through the proposal for GSo=
C project. Here is the link:=C2=A0<a href=3D"https://docs.google.com/docume=
nt/d/1QayByVOYj2FINohvL4Mr-_Xq9Cb0TnwrrscfXgjPnDo/edit">GSoC proposal</a><b=
r><br>Please provide your valuable comments, as to how can I be selected as=
 I really want to be a part of this experience.<br><br>Formatting is not qu=
ite good. Please suggest on formatting also, as nothing was mentioned in th=
e guidelines.<div><br></div><div>Thanks,<br>Harsh Khatore</div></div><div c=
lass=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Mar 21, 2018 at=
 11:45 AM, Alistair Crooks <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:agc@pkgs=
rc.org" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquo=
te class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc so=
lid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_extra">When you =
read the answers below, I can understand if you think I&#39;m being difficu=
lt.</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra">Bu=
t this is how we can work out whether you&#39;ve understood the task, and h=
ave thought about how you&#39;d go about it.</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra=
"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><span class=3D"">On 20 March 2018 at 18:03=
, Harsh Khatore <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:khatore.harsh.githu=
[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">khatore.harsh.github@gmail.<wbr>com</a>&gt;<=
/span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8=
ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><span>

<span class=3D"m_-7292100075572547699m_-4543146436764044190gmail-im" style=
=3D"color:rgb(80,0,80);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-s=
tyle:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-wei=
ght:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transfo=
rm:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,25=
5);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><div><div c=
lass=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Tue 20 Mar, 2018, 9:34 AM Alistair=
 Crooks, &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" rel=3D"noreferrer" style=3D"=
color:rgb(17,85,204);text-decoration:none" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]=
</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:=
0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">=
<div dir=3D"ltr">Yeah, netpgpverify is the new, all-in-one, no pre-reqs cod=
ebase solely for the verification part of signatures.<div><br></div><div>ed=
25519 also needs to be added to netpgp, which is the older and more crufty =
code base which covers signing and verification.</div></div></blockquote></=
div></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto"></div></span><div d=
ir=3D"auto" style=3D"color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-=
size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-ca=
ps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-inden=
t:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-co=
lor:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:in=
itial"><span style=3D"font-family:sans-serif">So, as netpgpverify is the ne=
w code base for verification part, netpgp will be used for only the signing=
 part or for both as it used to do?</span></div></span></div></blockquote><=
div><br></div></span><div>See the project specification - both are needed.<=
/div><span class=3D""><div>=C2=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" st=
yle=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div =
dir=3D"ltr"><span><div dir=3D"auto" style=3D"color:rgb(34,34,34);font-famil=
y:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligature=
s:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;tex=
t-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-s=
pacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;=
text-decoration-color:initial"><br></div><span class=3D"m_-7292100075572547=
699m_-4543146436764044190gmail-im" style=3D"color:rgb(80,0,80);font-family:=
arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:=
normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-=
align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spa=
cing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;te=
xt-decoration-color:initial"><div dir=3D"auto"></div><div dir=3D"auto"><div=
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x 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr"><div><br></div><div>But before any code is touched, we&#39;d=
 need to know what gpg constants uses for these algorithms, since they&#39;=
re not in RFC 4880, and so we can interoperate with gpg in verifying and si=
gning.</div><div></div></div></blockquote></div></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br=
></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div></span><div dir=3D"auto" style=3D"color:=
rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:norm=
al;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;l=
etter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;w=
hite-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-d=
ecoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial">We can get the ed255=
19 specifications from RFC8023 and see for the constants but I have a doubt=
 as to what are these constants that you referred?</div></span></div></bloc=
kquote><div><br></div></span><div>Look further.</div><div><br></div><div>Th=
ink of the job that netpgpverify and netpgp do, and how they interoperate w=
ith other software.</div><span class=3D""><div>=C2=A0</div><blockquote clas=
s=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;pad=
ding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><span><span class=3D"m_-7292100075572547699=
m_-4543146436764044190gmail-im" style=3D"color:rgb(80,0,80);font-family:ari=
al,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:nor=
mal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-ali=
gn:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacin=
g:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-=
decoration-color:initial"><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto"><di=
v class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0=
px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><=
div dir=3D"ltr"><div><br></div><div>We need to know what extra parts are ne=
eded (from different sources, along with their licences), and any other pre=
reqs we might need for both netpgpverify and netpgp.</div><div></div></div>=
</blockquote></div></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div></span></span><div dir=
=3D"auto" style=3D"color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-si=
ze:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps=
:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:=
0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-colo=
r:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:init=
ial">I am not able to get what do you mean by extra parts and prereqs, can =
you explain, please?</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div></span><div><sp=
an style=3D"color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:smal=
l;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;=
font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text=
-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(25=
5,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;floa=
t:none;display:inline">Think of other things that will be necessary to acco=
mplish the task.</span>=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>In summary, I&#39;d =
like to see what you think will be necessary. I&#39;d like to see the thoug=
hts that go into how to accomplish a design and programming task, what test=
s are necessary, and what to be wary of in the implementation. Not in email=
, but in the proposal that you write - how you will accomplish (and surpass=
) the goals.</div><div>=C2=A0</div><div>You (and anyone else) should now ha=
ve enough information -- from the project specification, and from previous =
email --=C2=A0 to generate a proposal for the project.<div><br></div><div>R=
egards,</div><div><span style=3D"color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans=
-serif;font-size:small;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font=
-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start=
;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;ba=
ckground-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decorati=
on-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">Alistair</span></div><div><br><=
/div><div>PS. One copy of email is enough, thanks :)<br style=3D"color:rgb(=
34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small;font-style:normal;fo=
nt-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter=
-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-=
space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decora=
tion-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><br class=3D"m_-729210007=
5572547699gmail-Apple-interchange-newline"></div>=C2=A0</div><span class=3D=
""><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left=
:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><span><div=
 dir=3D"ltr">On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 12:13 AM Alistair Crooks &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>&gt; wrote:<=
br></div></span><div><div class=3D"m_-7292100075572547699h5"><blockquote cl=
ass=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;p=
adding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Harsh,<div><br></div><div>I&#39;ve bee=
n talking to others about it, but yours is the first mail I&#39;ve received=
.</div><div><br></div><div>C proficiency is necessary. C++ not needed.</div=
><div><br></div><div>I can help you out with any specific questions you hav=
e - please mail them here (i.e. to tech-crypto, CC me).</div><div><br></div=
><div>Thanks,</div><div>Alistair</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br>=
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On 18 March 2018 at 10:57, Harsh Khatore <span d=
ir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"=
_blank">[email protected]<wbr>m</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><block=
quote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc=
 solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Alistair,<br><br>Sorry for con=
tacting you soo late for the above-mentioned project. Could you provide me =
with help regarding the project so that I can work on it for GSoC? Also, do=
 you have anyone else preparing for it or can I continue with this?<div><br=
>My knowledge of=C2=A0C and C++ languages is intermediate.<br><br>Thanks,<b=
r>Harsh Khatore<br><br><br></div></div>
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