PR #58681 reclassification (was: Re: bootable cdrom for VPS anyone?)
[email protected] Tue, 15 Apr 2025 13:39:45 +0200
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--Apple-Mail=_136786CA-4AD7-4FAF-A851-3447D3C4F1D6 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_046D450A-29CF-4963-B01B-165689B1DC56" --Apple-Mail=_046D450A-29CF-4963-B01B-165689B1DC56 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Hej there, is there a way to expedite implementation of this PR? This is classified as =E2=80=9Enon-critical=E2=80=9C and low priority. But for me it looks more like medium or even high priority and it is = indeed serious. Without a viogpu netbsd cannot be installed or properly = repaired/maintained on hosting services thet do not offer a real serial = remote console, only vnc style consoles. Prominent example is netcup.de <http://netcup.de/>.=20 I could not find a way to bump this on gnats, so please, would someone = just incorporate that code into -curent and upcoming releases? I am under the assumption that vio is supposed to be generic, given the = recent changes in the config files. Since I do not know wether this = change has an effect on other architectures that aarch64, that should be = considered. I compiled 10.99.14 for amd64 which seems ok, but I do not = run that architecture on kvm systems other than netbsd xen=E2=80=A6 Cheers Oskar > Am 10.12.2024 um 05:17 schrieb George Matsumura <[email protected]>: >=20 > Greetings, >=20 > I apologize for bumping such an old thread, but I hope this may be = found > useful. >=20 > On 12/18/23 22:47, [email protected] wrote: >> netcup support tinkered around with the images i sent them and came = to the same > conclusion that Lloyd suggested in a private conversation: = the vm expects kernel > messages and in effect any interaction with the = console using graphics calls to the > gpu instead of just a plain text = console. There is no plan on implementing that, > currently. And i = think, we don't plan to implement console over GPU, right? >=20 > The wscons driver for the virtio-gpu device ported in this PR should = allow > console interaction in your case: >=20 > https://gnats.netbsd.org/cgi-bin/query-pr-single.pl?number=3D58681 >=20 > I would think the patch included in the PR should apply to the 10.0 = sources. >=20 > Without console access, it is possible you could take an approach = similar to > the one detailed here, assuming netcup has something analagous to = Hetzner's > rescue mode (or another means of accessing the root disk from another = OS): >=20 > https://www.unitedbsd.com/d/1262-howto-run-netbsd-on-hetzner-cloud >=20 > Regards, > George --Apple-Mail=_046D450A-29CF-4963-B01B-165689B1DC56 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 <html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; = -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D"">Hej = there,<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">is there a = way to expedite implementation of this PR?</div><div class=3D"">This is = classified as =E2=80=9Enon-critical=E2=80=9C and low priority.</div><div = class=3D"">But for me it looks more like medium or even high priority = and it is indeed serious.</div><div class=3D"">Without a viogpu netbsd = cannot be installed or properly repaired/maintained on hosting services = thet do not offer a real serial remote console, only vnc style = consoles.</div><div class=3D"">Prominent example is <a = href=3D"http://netcup.de" class=3D"">netcup.de</a>. </div><div = class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">I could not find a way = to bump this on gnats, so please, would someone just incorporate that = code into -curent and upcoming releases?</div><div class=3D"">I am under = the assumption that vio is supposed to be generic, given the recent = changes in the config files. Since I do not know wether this = change has an effect on other architectures that aarch64, that should be = considered. I compiled 10.99.14 for amd64 which seems ok, but I do = not run that architecture on kvm systems other than netbsd = xen=E2=80=A6</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div = class=3D"">Cheers</div><div class=3D""><span class=3D"Apple-tab-span" = style=3D"white-space:pre"> </span>Oskar<br class=3D""><div><br = class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D"">Am = 10.12.2024 um 05:17 schrieb George Matsumura <<a = href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" = class=3D"">[email protected]</a>>:</div><br = class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div = class=3D"">Greetings,<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">I apologize for = bumping such an old thread, but I hope this may be found<br = class=3D"">useful.<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">On 12/18/23 22:47, <a = href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" class=3D"">[email protected]</a> = wrote:<br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"">netcup support = tinkered around with the images i sent them and came to the same > = conclusion that Lloyd suggested in a private conversation: the vm = expects kernel > messages and in effect any interaction with the = console using graphics calls to the > gpu instead of just a plain = text console. There is no plan on implementing that, > = currently. And i think, we don't plan to implement console over = GPU, right?<br class=3D""></blockquote><br class=3D"">The wscons driver = for the virtio-gpu device ported in this PR should allow<br = class=3D"">console interaction in your case:<br class=3D""><br = class=3D""><a = href=3D"https://gnats.netbsd.org/cgi-bin/query-pr-single.pl?number=3D58681= " = class=3D"">https://gnats.netbsd.org/cgi-bin/query-pr-single.pl?number=3D58= 681</a><br class=3D""><br class=3D"">I would think the patch included in = the PR should apply to the 10.0 sources.<br class=3D""><br = class=3D"">Without console access, it is possible you could take an = approach similar to<br class=3D"">the one detailed here, assuming netcup = has something analagous to Hetzner's<br class=3D"">rescue mode (or = another means of accessing the root disk from another OS):<br = class=3D""><br = class=3D"">https://www.unitedbsd.com/d/1262-howto-run-netbsd-on-hetzner-cl= oud<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Regards,<br class=3D""> = George<br class=3D""></div></div></blockquote></div><br = class=3D""></div></body></html>= --Apple-Mail=_046D450A-29CF-4963-B01B-165689B1DC56-- --Apple-Mail=_136786CA-4AD7-4FAF-A851-3447D3C4F1D6 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=smime.p7s Content-Type: application/pkcs7-signature; name=smime.p7s Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExDzANBglghkgBZQMEAgEFADCABgkqhkiG9w0BBwEAAKCCBXow ggV2MIIDXqADAgECAgMVXRcwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQENBQAweTEQMA4GA1UEChMHUm9vdCBDQTEeMBwG A1UECxMVaHR0cDovL3d3dy5jYWNlcnQub3JnMSIwIAYDVQQDExlDQSBDZXJ0IFNpZ25pbmcgQXV0 aG9yaXR5MSEwHwYJKoZIhvcNAQkBFhJzdXBwb3J0QGNhY2VydC5vcmcwHhcNMjQwMzA4MTYxNjA2 WhcNMjYwMzA4MTYxNjA2WjA+MRswGQYDVQQDDBJKYW4tSGlucmljaCBGZXNzZWwxHzAdBgkqhkiG 9w0BCQEWEG9za2FyQGZlc3NlbC5vcmcwggEiMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBAQUAA4IBDwAwggEKAoIBAQDC AsGycihffFv75WcgutRotMOS2qBn+bRjY45BumPMYvguY4OZb8TPxB/BbnJc7SQSlKI2zrPsoAE4 bnFt7FzPZ3V+9LB+Sa6kDRLWIlBJwpk+ez5JTHFgCoxM4FnTxKoOcCqG2i+ZjAMys+JfVxgrYewR 3olluQs0YeyMwKkbLt7GVnymrUYcGYEKfNUujI74j8B47oE3f5JFq1iPe31B0Zk6FMjHqQE9LlIU d5KRoL1QP5lnSDItpDcxpzxcIG88ed373vgbaftXRv3bzKn+g1fE4Df5fYVsFQSbnj4I6fH5S0Xw FPNiY6vOt4mL9mP14g3FrN84U+jvrRAMIsF1AgMBAAGjggFAMIIBPDAMBgNVHRMBAf8EAjAAMFYG CWCGSAGG+EIBDQRJFkdUbyBnZXQgeW91ciBvd24gY2VydGlmaWNhdGUgZm9yIEZSRUUgaGVhZCBv dmVyIHRvIGh0dHA6Ly93d3cuQ0FjZXJ0Lm9yZzAOBgNVHQ8BAf8EBAMCA6gwQAYDVR0lBDkwNwYI KwYBBQUHAwQGCCsGAQUFBwMCBgorBgEEAYI3CgMEBgorBgEEAYI3CgMDBglghkgBhvhCBAEwMgYI KwYBBQUHAQEEJjAkMCIGCCsGAQUFBzABhhZodHRwOi8vb2NzcC5jYWNlcnQub3JnMDEGA1UdHwQq MCgwJqAkoCKGIGh0dHA6Ly9jcmwuY2FjZXJ0Lm9yZy9yZXZva2UuY3JsMBsGA1UdEQQUMBKBEG9z a2FyQGZlc3NlbC5vcmcwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQENBQADggIBAC9O10fm+O1rVqJanEkzKWIVXXjuI5Cu zBeBUrWnsVJcxvoZGdG377LkGO3n/88Kb6KQ+wgvTxVO/HHAydTJaORwHPxataoE0zc/A104IDD9 rZyyUvZ4qeohqFZ9oCZBJIUsR8xsckKJVWqHGIXBqYDphLjSSBAXf6FUCrXTyt0kzpnHKrIrM6TY wsAgMe2N5/TyE5P03HvWjigJ2lru4a4BDsIqiGXLvC1D78tJeMhpQCDYXGsln6wSMp318nbGF3SS ypvpbTHaxrlxuRlMX6RwKVLPWvUjXNeVg9AT0pK/PxdV9xP/rYGAepymS0HgxhbKX09GUOEELdwn gtw6ZFedWYi3H/6RPcw5rmY6c7dnPeRDNNsTlt+pQSwAsgNj8qGeukDNjz7EHAklK9kOftMjxEEE /MWUZzVEn+7T7djEbuZwNECVuNJvdwLBtlP9woIiVA43XFSUQp7CIkqIRpXKiqiOar1FBlBRIVjG Kny9UkdDtI6js0CnMKQJsYZMOqc6y7OVU82GXNzgsFBOQIOFALeqm7dLSjVAPo3DjLFKE0iaCw4J dlSLVyJQo09fUOXFslSbX51LWgC85ACy6QNhCbiamOBZ7HXdP31/bgKndVV+yR29cGy18dv4P4pv erVWyBr9U6UnHeb9UiCZ/+qWlgfoCP7/syoHqevRBNZcMYIDQzCCAz8CAQEwgYAweTEQMA4GA1UE ChMHUm9vdCBDQTEeMBwGA1UECxMVaHR0cDovL3d3dy5jYWNlcnQub3JnMSIwIAYDVQQDExlDQSBD ZXJ0IFNpZ25pbmcgQXV0aG9yaXR5MSEwHwYJKoZIhvcNAQkBFhJzdXBwb3J0QGNhY2VydC5vcmcC AxVdFzANBglghkgBZQMEAgEFAKCCAZMwGAYJKoZIhvcNAQkDMQsGCSqGSIb3DQEHATAcBgkqhkiG 9w0BCQUxDxcNMjUwNDE1MTEzOTQ1WjAvBgkqhkiG9w0BCQQxIgQgie+yVmYa6l6E5OzK7LIYA2ml VOEJZJixjxBYZncErC8wgZEGCSsGAQQBgjcQBDGBgzCBgDB5MRAwDgYDVQQKEwdSb290IENBMR4w HAYDVQQLExVodHRwOi8vd3d3LmNhY2VydC5vcmcxIjAgBgNVBAMTGUNBIENlcnQgU2lnbmluZyBB dXRob3JpdHkxITAfBgkqhkiG9w0BCQEWEnN1cHBvcnRAY2FjZXJ0Lm9yZwIDFV0XMIGTBgsqhkiG 9w0BCRACCzGBg6CBgDB5MRAwDgYDVQQKEwdSb290IENBMR4wHAYDVQQLExVodHRwOi8vd3d3LmNh Y2VydC5vcmcxIjAgBgNVBAMTGUNBIENlcnQgU2lnbmluZyBBdXRob3JpdHkxITAfBgkqhkiG9w0B CQEWEnN1cHBvcnRAY2FjZXJ0Lm9yZwIDFV0XMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBCwUABIIBAID71HN9z6jGAmrb gishZcj3Nhfal96dKNaVKUSpgdisApA+B+eB3MTLNRA5JbEQNhzjPtXaRC5vnIlAGIyUqXmToT+e /3McYRkA4CIclCzZkEIgRUS7XfTDf4wJf4LrKWX1TSoum5Z7VWpZdwaom7XCBTR72XFcyCzp6avM ArC883lcCbyyK2PZVGzSJMbVaGNEImeugolngUd3gDeAdG9xjsMy48g6qodRbdqAx635fChgLrDb o24XsXANcb0k7Y1PEQH3OJYu237vuu37d2hq0cTfSg+WiZU/fehQ7inNzBjMgepDZvz34T4ayFDW LFi3vXbISkK/YE/Ooa9rB0gAAAAAAAA= --Apple-Mail=_136786CA-4AD7-4FAF-A851-3447D3C4F1D6--