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On Wed, Aug 04, 2010 at 11:13:40PM +0000, [email protected] wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 04, 2010 at 10:11:26PM +0200, Jan ?mydke wrote:
> > So to sum up my impression of your replies:
> >
> > - There is no strong desire to change the version control, mainly
> > because the pkgsrc users do not see much benefit of doing it
> >
> > - But the users are open to adopt it as long as NetBSD project switches
> > from CVS to something else
> >
> > Two additional notes:
> >
> > - I would definitely benefit from any decentralized VCS. At work I
> > cannot use 'cvs up' because of a firewall... so I have to stupidly
> > download the pkgsrc-wip-snapshot and unpack... every time I want to
> > update. Instead I could update from a git-repo from my other site very
> > easily...
> >
> > - Still thinking over the problem of the very limited pkgsrc
> > (and NetBSD) community. I don't dare to claim a faster VCS would flood
> > the project with new developers, but I believe it is one of the most
> > significant obstacles. When a Linux-bored guy checks NetBSD and sees
> > quite a messy web-site, he may hesitate, but finding out it is all
> > CVS-based - what? Sorry, bye. (What a pity for him, and for us!)
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > JS
>
> I was alerted to this thread in #netbsd, and am getting into thread
> at first opportunity after subscribing to ML, so excuse non-ideal
> placement :)
>
> To put another candidate into the mix which -does-
> have a hope of inclusion in NetBSD, please see fossil
> (http://fossil-scm.org), and see tech-repository thread at
> http://mail-index.netbsd.org/tech-repository/2010/01/18/msg000345.html
> for the discussion that occurred there.
>
> Looking forward to more exploration!
Sorry to reply to self, but other pertinent info:
http://methodlogic.net/BSDFossil.html
...and near the end of the tech-kern thread I mentioned previously,
note that drh hisself (principle dev of fossil) indicated he'd be happy
to assist as he's able.
Cheers, all
-bch
> ps: I see Peter's email right below. He's one that alerted me in
> #netbsd. "maw" Peter :)
>
> --
> Brad Harder
> Method Logic Digital Consulting
> http://methodlogic.net
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>
>
> > On Wed, 4 Aug 2010 15:44:21 +0200
> > Peter Bex <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > On Wed, Aug 04, 2010 at 03:22:30PM +0200, Jan ?mydke wrote:
> > > > 4. I don't like git. It takes a while to get used to its concept
> > > > and to find and memorize just a few commands one need.
> > > >
> > > > On the other hand, it is perhaps the only system applicable for
> > > > pkgsrc stuff these days (svn may be OK - but it's just an improved
> > > > CVS; mercurial has wrong concept in my view; darcs is COOL but
> > > > portability is POOR and the performance too; monotone or bzr...
> > > > hardly) Git is really fast and efficient.
> > > >
> > > > But CVS is even harder to use than git (I use it only for pkgsrc
> > > > and do not understand it). (May be a question of a particular
> > > > opinion)
> > >
> > > CVS is what's used by NetBSD itself. I think it's fair to assume
> > > people using NetBSD will at least be familiar with it.
> > >
> > > There is also experimentation being done for NetBSD with Fossil
> > > (fossil-scm.org) pkgsrc-wip could be a good place to further this
> > > experimentation. Fossil also is very small and has zero dependencies,
> > > whereas git has quite a lot of obnoxious dependencies.
> > >
> > > Perhaps ASau or someone involved with this Fossil stuff could pitch
> > > in?
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Peter
> >
> >
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