Re: wip/hylafax-devel 4.3.0 rc1 - please test package

On Fri, Apr 21, 2006 at 08:39:34AM -0700, Min Sik Kim wrote:
> On Apr 20, 2006, at 8:35 AM, Andreas Hallmann wrote:
> 
> I'm not objecting to keeping the development version of hylafax.   
> What I don't like is its PKGNAME.  See mail/mutt and mail/mutt-devel  
> for example.  Although they have different directory names, their  
> package name is "mutt".  Unless you make hylafax-devel installable  
> with hylafax (non-development version) without conflicts, you should  
> either add CONFLICTS to both packages or make them have the same  
> package name (hylafax).  I think the latter would be better.
> 
> Regards,
> Min Sik Kim
> 

I see, CONFLICTS are there for a while. 
I begged and prepared for a hylafax-devel in pkgsrc a few years ago.

So 

508: grep CONFLICTS /usr/pkgsrc/comms/hylafax/Makefile 
CONFLICTS=      hylafax-devel-[0-9]* mgetty-[0-9]*

509: grep CONFLICTS /usr/pkgsrc/wip/hylafax-devel/Makefile 
CONFLICTS=      hylafax-[0-9]* mgetty-[0-9]*

is in the packages.


I will rethink the second option, now that I understand you right.

I personally like the postfix "-devel" for packages from a development branch in general.
Think of it as a "you haved been warned". So a quick "pkg_info | grep -- -devel" 
can tell me if a system is to be considered stable and ready for prime time.
As an administrator you can have a hard time to remember the version logique of each and every 
package you have installed.
So IMHO flagging development versions with a '-devel' suffix is a good thing.

Even so, I understand that introducing this discipline to a large dependancy tree as i.e. gnome 
can be a major headache. But for leave packages like mutt or hylafax this is no concern.

BTW: There are some tools around like pkgdepgraph,pkg_chk etc.
     In the case of a system upgrade: are they able to determine the correct 
     pkg-directory from which the installed package i.e. mutt was build?

OK:  PKGPATH is noted in +BUILD_INFO, so they should be able to do the right thing.

ergo: I think I understand your point now and hope you got mine.

Regards
	Andreas
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