Re: need your advice before new Raspberry Pi purchase
Ramiro Aceves <[email protected]>
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Cause lighttpd was familar to me, I have used it under raspbian and Debian. El 22/4/24 a las 16:03, Justin Parrott escribió: > why do you choose lighttpd over the one distributed with n? > > On Sun, Apr 21, 2024 at 4:08 PM Ramiro Aceves <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > > > El 21/4/24 a las 20:33, Justin Parrott escribió: > > what do you use it for? > > Lighttpd Web server, home minidlna film server. > > > > > On Sat, Apr 20, 2024 at 2:24 PM Ramiro Aceves <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> > > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > I am thinking about buying a more powerful Raspberry Pi than > my actual > > Raspberry Pi ZeroW. I like very much how NetBSD operating > system is > > working although I was a bit dissapointed with WIFI driver > for the > > builtin WIFI device, I feel that I can control the OS and it > is the > > OS I > > was looking for, simple and straightforward without bells and > whistles. > > > > In general NetBSD works fine in the Pi once you get used to it, > > everything makes sense soon, you fell confortable and why not > to say, I > > am in a new world after many years using Linux and needed new > > sensations. On the Zero W WIFI bwfm driver did not work well and > > overcome that buying a USB WIFI dongle with RTL 8188EU chip > that works > > almost ok (with no channel switching in the router). Now I > am going to > > use only ethernet network connection so WIFI will not be a > problem. > > > > > > I have been reading > > https://wiki.netbsd.org/ports/evbarm/raspberry_pi/ > <https://wiki.netbsd.org/ports/evbarm/raspberry_pi/> > > <https://wiki.netbsd.org/ports/evbarm/raspberry_pi/ > <https://wiki.netbsd.org/ports/evbarm/raspberry_pi/>> > > but information is a bit confusing. > > > > "As of early 2024, NetBSD does not support the Raspberry Pi 5." > > > > Reading that I inmediatly discarded the Raspberry Pi 5 > choice. Being > > realistic I think It does not work in NetBSD 10 now and I > estimate it > > will not work well for perhaps some years. Life is short, I > cannot wait > > and so I think RaspberryPi 4 should be my buying target. > > > > > > "NetBSD 10" > > > > "RPI4 general support (but there are issues)" > > > > Seems explained below. > > > > > > "RPI4 ethernet (Broadcom GENETv5) (but the man page for > > genet(4) is > > missing)" > > > > Can I be sure that ethernet will work fine and reliable? > Network speed? > > > > > > "builtin bluetooth on RPI3 (RPI0W? RPI4?)" > > > > Does bluetooth work on the Pi4? > > > > > > "builtin WiFi on RPI0W, RPI3 and RPI4 - bwfm(4)" > > > > Does WIFI bwfm driver work as badly as in the ZeroW? Not > relevant for > > my future use of the Pi 4 cause I will use it through > ethernet but that > > will be a bonus, just curious. > > > > > > "RPI4 xhci does not work with a straight netbsd-10 install" > > > > I seems that below is the explanation. > > > > "RPI4 hardware rng does not work with a straight netbsd-10 > > install" > > > > I seems that below is the explanation. > > > > > > The following chapter is very confusing for me: > > > > > > "Issues and Workarounds" > > "RPI4 xhci" > > > > "With the netbsd-10 arm64.img on a RPI4 (most of them), the > pci driver > > is missing and therefore xhci will not attach, so the USB > ports will > > not > > work. One workaround is to switch to UEFI, but that leads to > a 3GB > > memory limit and needing a monitor. Another is to add kernel > config. > > One > > can also add the hardware rng. Adding the following to > GENERIC64.local > > results in both working; you likely also need a dtb that > includes the > > RNG. \todo Explain why this isn't in GENERIC64 or link to a PR. > > > > GENERIC64 > > > > bcm2838pcie* at fdt? # STB PCIe host > controller > > bcm2838rng* at fdt? # RPI4 RNG > > > > There is some need to load firmware for the xhci driver, but > apparently > > that works, once the above is added" > > > > > > Does it mean that using "traditional booting" you end with > non working > > USB ports? Will you even end without keyboard? I mainly will > use the Pi > > headless via ssh but need the keyboard in the first > configuring steps. > > > > After switching to UEFI you will make USB ports work but 8 GB > > RapberryPi > > will be reduced to 3 GB only with no workaround? What do > "needing a > > monitor" mean? Why? > > If the fix for USB and rng is recompiling the KERNEL, why is not > > enabled > > by default in the standard image? > > > > > > "RPI4 UEFI 3 GB" > > > > "To work around bugs in hardware (that may or may not be fixed in > > recent > > RPI4) and because not all OSes have workarounds, the UEFI > firmware's > > default is to limit RAM to 3GB. NetBSD 10 can be used with > more, so > > this > > needs to be configured in UEFI." > > > > That should be explained more in detail for newcomers. > > > > Last questions: > > > > Do GPIO pins work ok? > > > > Does I2C work? That is important for me cause I plan to read some > > sensors. > > > > Does HDMI output work or should I use serial console? > traditional boot > > vs UEFI difference in this matter? > > > > What is your final opinion about NetBSD in that board? Are > there better > > supported boards perhaps? > > > > Many thanks and sorry for so many questions, just I want to > be sure > > that > > I am going to make a good and useful purchase. If I purchase > a Rpi 4 > > instead of Rpi 5 to have NetBSD support and It does not work > ok, it > > will > > be a absolute nonsense. > > > > I appreciate your work very much and your comments and advice > will be > > welcome and very valuable for me. > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > > > Ramiro. > > > > > > > > -- > > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> > > https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61556020800880 > <https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61556020800880> > > <https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61556020800880 > <https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61556020800880>> > > https://twitter.com/Rose29283220654 > <https://twitter.com/Rose29283220654> > <https://twitter.com/Rose29283220654 > <https://twitter.com/Rose29283220654>> > > > > -- > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61556020800880 > <https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61556020800880> > https://twitter.com/Rose29283220654 <https://twitter.com/Rose29283220654>