Re: Missing X binary

OK, after a selection of minor issues - gxemul now runs X11 from a
current NetBSD/pmax build

https://twitter.com/abs0/status/1466899301427257347 (as I can't
usefully send a screenshot to the list :)

So issues:
- Working out the seemingly random set of files to tweak to get pmax
to build xf86-video-wsfb
- Finding out that Xorg 1.20 won't build, so switching pmax to using
1.10 (similar to vax)
- X failing to start due to missing WSDISPLAYIO_GET_FBINFO support in
the cfb driver (now added)
- Xorg 1.10 is missing the uxterm binary used by the default ctwmrc
(which is _really_ annoying, if trivial to workaround)
- Thinking the keyboard mapping is all to hell, until I realised that
the key marked <X] sends The Correct Sequence To Delete A Character,
not ^H

Anyway, I'm going to run up a full release build with ISO, and then
upload it with some brief notes in case anyone else wants to have a
play (which will be tomorrow now as I'm currently enjoying a power cut
with a less than full laptop battery), then look to get it in-tree for
the next NetBSD version.

David

On Wed, 1 Dec 2021 at 21:08, David Brownlee <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> On Wed, 1 Dec 2021 at 18:59, Parodper <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > O 01/12/21 ás 19:26, David Brownlee escribiu:
> > > On Sun, 31 Oct 2021 at 10:28, Parodper <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Hi,
> > >>
> > >> I was playing around on gxemul with a DECstation 3MAX VM, and found out,
> > >> when trying to startx, that the xserver.tgz set does not include the
> > >> eponymous X server.
> > >>
> > >> Am I missing something, or is it just not included?
> > >
> > > It looks like it dropped out during an upgrade of the Xorg version
> > > between NetBSD-7 and NetBSD-8 (probably when XAA acceleration support
> > > was dropped). As it happens it should be possible to run a generic
> > > Xwsfb X server, similar to VAX.
> >
> > Thanks for the answer. Will try that when I have the time.
> >
> > > However, unless I miss my guess, gxemul doesn't actually emulate
> > > DECstation display hardware, so an X server may not help you.
> >
> > http://gavare.se/gxemul/gxemul-stable/doc/machine_decstation.html#netbsdpmaxinstall
> > does show twm, but that info was last updated on NetBSD 7.1.2
>
> Aha - thanks for the pointer!
>
> OK, so the NetBSD-7.1 ISO failed to boot for me under gxemul, but I
> was able to boot and install the latest netbsd-HEAD from
> http://nyftp.netbsd.org/ and then use it to mount the NetBSD-7.1 ISO
> and extract the sets into /altroot
>
> A quick 'chroot /altroot' and 'export PATH=/usr/X11R6/bin:$PATH' then
> 'startx' and the glory of twm is revealed.
>
> Let me tweak a copy of the NetBSD tree to build an Xwsfb server and
> see what happens...
>
> Thanks
>
> David