Re: X problem on PMAGB-B

Dave McGuire <[email protected]> Thu, 13 Nov 2025 14:26:06 -0500
Newsgroups gmane.os.netbsd.ports.mips.devel
Message-ID <[email protected]>
On 11/13/25 00:54, Mouse wrote:
>>> [...PMAGB-B...]
>> I installed the X11 sets from 7.2, and while the X server started up,
>> I didn't get very far past that.  I ended up at a window that says
>> "Session Menu" at the top, with a text box containing the string
>> "chooseSessionListWidget", and "Default/Fail Safe" and "Cancel"
>> buttons available.  Clicking the former ends up at a blank screen
>> (well, just the X background stipple and xconsole.
> 
> I'd say the X server issues are gone; sounds as though X server is
> working fine.  What isn't working is the (X) client setup.  Depending
> on how you started X, this may or may not be related to the version
> mismatch between 7.2's X sets and the rest of your system.
> 
> Personally, I'd suggest using just the X server from 7.2's X, not
> everything from 7.2's X sets.  I don't know how easy this would be to
> do, especially if both it and the rest of your sytem expect X to be in
> the same place (eg, /usr/X11R7), but it probably can be done with
> sufficient determination.  (I expect the biggest headaches to be the
> shared libraries involved, since some of them are used by both the
> server and (most) clients, and I would not expect good results from
> using programs from one X setup with the libraries from the other,
> regardless of which is newer.)
> 
> "Session Menu" sounds as though it's coming from a session nmanager.
> The rest of that looks vaguely as though some program is depending on
> resources (in the X sense) for configuration, but is badly built enough
> that its compiled-in defaults aren't sufficient for even minimally
> correct operation.  This makes me suspect you started X using one of
> the "do everything" scripts, rather than manually.
> 
> Can you get a shell on it somehow when it's in that state, such as over
> the network or on a serial port?  I'd be curious to know what's
> running.

   I had to head out before I could dig in any deeper.  It has rapidly 
become not worth the hassle; I am giving up on it.  There are hundreds 
of other machines that need work, and this one has already burned way 
too much of my time.

   I will hang onto this bootable drive; if anyone ends up digging into 
the PMAGB-B support to find out why it's borked, I have a good test 
environment and can give it a try.

            -Dave

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Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA