Re: Regarding the ULTRIX and OSF1 compats

Johnny Billquist <[email protected]> Sat, 16 Mar 2019 13:41:17 +0100
Newsgroups gmane.os.netbsd.ports.alpha,gmane.os.netbsd.devel.kernel,gmane.os.netbsd.ports.pmax
Organization SoftJAR AB
Message-ID <[email protected]>
On 2019-03-16 13:37, Michael Kronsteiner wrote:
> On Sat, 2019-03-16 at 18:17 +0700, Robert Elz wrote:
>>      Date:        Sat, 16 Mar 2019 09:45:07 +0100
>>      From:        Maxime Villard <[email protected]>
>>      Message-ID:  <[email protected]>
>>
>>
>> NetBSD can support newer hardware at the OS level, and old userland,
>> which doesn't care what the hardware underneath is in any detail
>> (just....
> 
> i see. would YOU run software that costs maybe 4-digit numbers for
> yearly license on an OS that "maybe" runs it "somehow" ? why do you
> think prices for those old machines have skyrocketed? they run NATIVE.
> because it WORKS (tm)
> 
> And "newer" Hardware is quite relative to stay polite. theres no newer
> alpha or vax or decstation than the existing models. not even all of
> them are fully supported(just check the webpages port-pmax, port-vax,
> port-alpha). btw even digital unix runs fine and stable on MP alphas.
> maybe "primary targets" should be a bit rearranged. last release of
> tru64 was in 1999 or so aswell. to support that is not really on my
> necessary wishlist for now.
> 
> for the time being - if i need an ultrix or osf(dec unix, tru64...)
> setup, i will install exactly that.
> 
> it seems what youre trying to do is to shoehorn is like stuffing a
> 2n3055 in modern microelectronics.
> 
> i think this compatibility stuff can be kept for later. first get a
> stable base. development on that side has very improved in last years.
> its often better to stay "on track" for now. its sad to say that
> directly, but as businessman, NetBSD is not an option for now. i want
> more money, not more work with unstable machines. (yes im greedy)
> 
> i excuse to everyone who found my words a bit harsh, but thats reality.

Well, if we want to talk reality - why are you even looking at NetBSD. 
Reality, business wise, is Linux. You might possibly argue FreeBSD.
NetBSD is not an option, and will never become an option.

   Johnny

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