Re: Performance degradation over time on VAX...

Ken Wellsch <[email protected]> Mon, 22 Jun 2026 16:51:08 -0400
Newsgroups gmane.os.netbsd.ports.vax
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[Apologies for reposting this - I've lost my old pure ascii e-mail service
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> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of
Johnny Billquist <[email protected]>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2026 10:42 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Performance degradation over time on VAX...
>
> ...
>
> Anyway - this is perhaps food for thought for someone who is interested
> in digging into it more. If I have plenty of time, I might dig more, but
> I'm sortof busy with other things as well. :)
>
>    Johnny

A little late, but I took the challenge and I did some tests that I hope
follow what you have done.

Here are the results, FWIW...

My simh 3.12-5 boot config I used with the ISOs.  All testing done using
the same host system.

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set cpu 128m

set cpu SIMHALT
set cpu idle=NETBSD

attach nvr ./nvram.bin

set rq0 RAUSER=1024
att rq0 RA1G.0.dsk

set rq1 disabled

set rq2 cdrom
att rq2 /home/sim312/vax/iso/LEGACY/{vaxcd-*.iso or NetBSD-*.iso}

set rq3 disabled

set xq disabled

set dz lines=4
set dz 7b
attach -am dz 1144

set  tq disabled
set lpt disabled
set  rl disabled
set  ts disabled

boot cpu

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Run on each release ISO selecting a shell after booting

dd if=/dev/rra0c of=/dev/null bs=1024

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2.0.0.txt:1024458752 bytes transferred in 92.210 secs (11110061 bytes/sec)
2.0.2.txt:1024458752 bytes transferred in 92.630 secs (11059686 bytes/sec)
2.1.0.txt:1024458752 bytes transferred in 93.000 secs (11015685 bytes/sec)
3.1.1.txt:1024458752 bytes transferred in 97.490 secs (10508347 bytes/sec)
4.0.0.txt:1024458752 bytes transferred in 114.550 secs (8943332 bytes/sec)
4.0.1.txt:1024458752 bytes transferred in 114.230 secs (8968386 bytes/sec)
5.0.0.txt:1024458752 bytes transferred in 157.420 secs (6507805 bytes/sec)
5.0.2.txt:1024458752 bytes transferred in 160.880 secs (6367844 bytes/sec)
5.1.2.txt:1024458752 bytes transferred in 162.350 secs (6310186 bytes/sec)
5.1.5.txt:1024458752 bytes transferred in 161.820 secs (6330853 bytes/sec)
5.2.3.txt:1024458752 bytes transferred in 158.070 secs (6481044 bytes/sec)
6.0.6.txt:1024458752 bytes transferred in 179.890 secs (5694917 bytes/sec)
6.1.2.txt:1024458752 bytes transferred in 176.960 secs (5789210 bytes/sec)
6.1.3.txt:1024458752 bytes transferred in 178.940 secs (5725152 bytes/sec)
7.0.0.txt:1024458752 bytes transferred in 197.520 secs (5186607 bytes/sec)
7.1.2.txt:1024458752 bytes transferred in 197.030 secs (5199506 bytes/sec)
7.2.0.txt:1024458752 bytes transferred in 197.720 secs (5181361 bytes/sec)
8.0.0.txt:1024458752 bytes transferred in 204.430 secs (5011293 bytes/sec)
8.1.0.txt:1024458752 bytes transferred in 204.420 secs (5011538 bytes/sec)
8.2.0.txt:1024458752 bytes transferred in 211.010 secs (4855024 bytes/sec)
9.0.0.txt:1024458752 bytes transferred in 199.950 secs (5123574 bytes/sec)
9.1.0.txt:1024458752 bytes transferred in 201.240 secs (5090731 bytes/sec)
9.2.0.txt:1024458752 bytes transferred in 204.750 secs (5003461 bytes/sec)
9.3.0.txt:1024458752 bytes transferred in 201.380 secs (5087192 bytes/sec)
10.0..txt:1024458752 bytes transferred in 224.340 secs (4566545 bytes/sec)
10.1..txt:1024458752 bytes transferred in 223.530 secs (4583092 bytes/sec)
11rc5.txt:1024458752 bytes transferred in 226.920 secs (4514625 bytes/sec)

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Run on already installed images that had rebuilt themselves from source

dd if=/dev/rra0c of=/dev/null bs=1024 count=1000448

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1.2.1.txt:1024458752 bytes transferred in 64 secs (16007168 bytes/sec)
1.3.3.txt:1024458752 bytes transferred in 64 secs (16007168 bytes/sec)
1.4.3.txt:1024458752 bytes transferred in 63 secs (16261250 bytes/sec)
1.5.3.txt:1024458752 bytes transferred in 113 secs (9066006 bytes/sec)
1.6.2.txt:1024458752 bytes transferred in 125.800 secs (8143551 bytes/sec)

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ce degradation over time on VAX...<br>&gt;<br>&gt; ...<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Anyw=
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ults, FWIW...<br><br>My simh 3.12-5 boot config I used with the ISOs.=C2=A0=
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r>set rq3 disabled<br><br>set xq disabled<br><br>set dz lines=3D4<br>set dz=
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br>set =C2=A0rl disabled<br>set =C2=A0ts disabled<br><br>boot cpu<br><br>--=
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350 secs (6310186 bytes/sec)<br>5.1.5.txt:1024458752 bytes transferred in 1=
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n 158.070 secs (6481044 bytes/sec)<br>6.0.6.txt:1024458752 bytes transferre=
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sec)<br>11rc5.txt:1024458752 bytes transferred in 226.920 secs (4514625 byt=
es/sec)<br><br>-----------------------------------------------------<br>Run=
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>dd if=3D/dev/rra0c of=3D/dev/null bs=3D1024 count=3D1000448<br><br>-------=
----------------------------------------------<br><br>1.2.1.txt:1024458752 =
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s transferred in 125.800 secs (8143551 bytes/sec)<br></div>

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