Re: vax wscons setting questions

Well, I would argue that *very few* ever thought about using wscons on 
VAX. Most would have been using a serial console, or else the simple bit 
mapped console straight up.

I certainly never even considered using wscons on VAXen. Although I have 
been running VAXen more or less continously for about 30 years.

   Johnny

On 2024-02-04 00:55, Mouse wrote:
>>>>> +	makedev wscons
>>>> i'm surprised it is 2024 and we're doing this.
>>> Doing what?  [...]
> 
> [tsutsui@]
> 
>> He also said "please do" so I assume it's obviously
>> "to add wscons target to the default MAKEDEV all op"
> 
> Hm, that didn't seem obvious to me.  I read it as, to expand a little,
> "I'm surprised it's 2024 and we're still doing something this
> backward" (with the "please do" being something along the lines of
> "please do it, since that's how we still have to do it").  Perhaps I've
> just seen too many people say things like "I'm surprised it's [date]
> and [thing]" with meaning clearly (usually from additional text) of
> "how come we're so behind the times".
> 
> But, in this case, as mrg@ clarified,
> 
>> that it took until 2024 to have this patch proposed.
> 
> so I clearly was misreading.  My apologies.
> 
>> that means anyone who has been using wscons on vax has been manually
>> setting it up for a very long time....
> 
> Has anyone?  I was under the impression - though formed mostly from
> absence of evidence, not evidence of absence - that vax has been mostly
> going unused ever since the broken compiler, the one that couldn't
> self-host, was dropped in.
> 
> It also wouldn't surprise me if the few diehards who have been using it
> all this time have been upgrading existing installs, which for the
> first switch to wscons likely meant manual fixups and since then have
> been using existing /dev entries.
> 
> Or have been using some other X, such as MIT X.  I sure know my few
> brushes with X.org on non-peecee hardware have hardly enamoured me of
> using it in cases where it's not actually needed (in my experience,
> such need is most commonly for hardware support reasons).
> 
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