Re: [openbeos] Re: Con

Hi Charlie

You have a point there. Many people want to help, and at the end many 'fa=
il'in doing that. This is the risk you have with volunteers and this is s=
omething you have to deal with... But I believe that there is a 'system' =
that could help accelerate the development of an 'Os' or an 'application'=
. If you do your best to get 'new' developers, less work should be done b=
y every individual developer. If  someone doesn't have the time anymore, =
another one could take it over very easy and fast. Now you have 1 person/=
application and it last months when somenone wants to continue with that =
1 application. When you do your best to get more developers, you could ha=
ve the situation that you have 2 or more persons per application. This is=
 maybe a dream, but who does not try, does not know ...=20
And if you want to attrackt more people to help, you need to do something=
 for that.=20
I don't say that the OBOS-site is bad. I can say that it is very good str=
uctured and easy to find things(good work Phil!). The only thing I miss, =
is that it is difficult for new developers to join the team.=20

grtz
      Jan-Rixt(JR)


P.S: Sorry for those who always gets my emails twice, but I want to be su=
re  that everyone of openbeos and the preferences-team gets my email.

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On 2003-09-17 at 09:43:00 [+0000], Jan-Rixt Van Hoye wrote:
>> Hi!
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>> Many thanks for the many reactions on my mail. If everything goes well=
,
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>> can start at the preferences team(thx Sikosis). What I see is that the=
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>> are some "small problems" with OpenBeOs Management. I am new to this20
>> community, but I can say that I am following it since Be Inc "stopped"=
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>> love BeOs, but on new systems, it does not work good anymore. I am ver=
y
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>> glad to see that there is a group of volunteers that want to make Beos=
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>> "competitive" again. But this is "shit" we hear every time. What I see=
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>> and hear now is that some things don't go very well and these are:
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>> 1) Communication problem with the management. We hear everything in "b=
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>> news-sites" but nothing on the "OpenBeos-site"
>> Solution: A good and UP-TO-DATE news forum with easy acces. What I mea=
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>> is not a newsletter( the ones that exists are very good for those who =
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>> developing). I mean, if someone leave a team or gets into it, this sho=
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>> be posted in a central place. And not somewhere in a 'dark corner' of =
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>> site. A potential developer should have the possibility to send a mail=
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>> the "right" responsable team-manager. There should not be old email=3D=
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>> addresses.
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>> 2) There is no easy way to contribute to the project.
>> Solution: A webpage where you are able to fill in your interests and i=
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>> which team you want to work. When you "submit", a mail should be sent =
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>> the responsable team-leader
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>Hey Jan-Rixt,
>
>those are all valid points but please remember that resources are limite=
d
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>and managing Open Source really is like herding cats. One of things OBOS=
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>has suffered from thus far is not enuff commitment from developers: peop=
l
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>who've signed up to something but either lost interest or never had it i=
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>the first place. That said Phil does a great job with his website, I thi=
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>it's the best of the various teams and he does respond actively to peopl=
e
>..
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>One thing you might like to know about is that OBOS developers (well the=
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>European ones) do actually meet up generally at BeGeistert and you might=
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>like to come along to the next one to meet a few of them seeing as you'r=
e
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>just down the road.
>
>Charlie
>--=3D20
>Charlie Clark
>Chief Chaos Coordinator
>BeGeistert.org
>BeGeistert 011 - NeXTsteps
>D=3DFCsseldorf 18 - 19.10.2003
>http://www.begeistert.org/