Re: What *should* the B in BSD stand for?

Good troll!  But it is nothing but a troll.

On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 08:06:51AM -0500, Alex Libman wrote:
> On 2/16/2011 2:28 AM, Steve Shockley wrote:
> > Status quo, then?
> 
> Of course.  I obviously didn't expect anything to be changed through
> this half-humorous / half-serious conversation, except to better measure
> and document the political and cultural attitude within this project.
> If as the result of this even one person has spent even one minute
> logically analyzing the wisdom of clinging on to the Berkeley legacy
> indefinitely, then this whole exercise has been worth it.

The only thing this has provoked in me is a facepalm and the fighting
the urge not to reply.  You have succeeded in making a total ass out of
yourself.  Throwing out terms that you claim to grasp (you don't).

> To review, the "status quo" is:
> 
> * OpenBSD currently remains the best choice for people who care about
>   attaining as much Copyfree license purity as we possibly can, but
>   FreeBSD looks to surpass it by getting rid of GCC and other GNU
>   entanglements, which are an even bigger issue than kernel BLOB's.

And when there is an alternative to gcc I can assure you that OpenBSD
will jump on it.  Somehow finding a compiler that works on 14 or so
arches is a bit hard.  Wonder why.  I mean it is only like a compiler
right?

> * OpenBSD currently remains an OK bare-hardware server OS, especially if
>   you can offload certain performance-sensitive tasks to something else,
>   but it continues to fall further behind as many companies pump
>   billions of R&D dollars into next-gen security innovations, including
>   "managed code" OS'es, that will eventually make BSD's accomplishments

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That is AWESOME!

Managed code OS, yeah those will totally blow real OS's out of the
water.  Just like IBM's self healing hard- and software did.

>   technically obsolete.  Whether you like it or not, OpenBSD's greatest
>   long-term legacy may have more to do with FLOSS licensing politics
>   rather than security and design.

OpenBSD isn't working on it's legacy.  It isn't dead yet.

> * BSD's unrepentant legacy of violence (government funding) and other
>   socialist cultural leanings continue to leave a bad taste in many a
>   libertarian's month, but historical "karma" is ultimately far less
>   crucial than licensing terms, so we will continue to use it.  An ever-
>   growing fraction of the Copyfree software stack is coming from non-
>   governmental sources like Google, Apple, Apache, Haiku, etc.  It's a
>   tedious distinction, but nonetheless a relevant one, and libertarians
>   should give priority to projects that reflect their values.  Any
>   significant Copyfree OS (even a *BSD fork) to take this seriously is
>   getting a big fat check, and not only from me.

So as a fellow libertarian let me be the first one to tell you: "Fuck
you, get the fuck out of my my Internet with your stupid libertarian
views that don't match my superior ones."

If your fellow libertarian friends are a nicely congealed bunch then
they aren't libertarians, they are religious followers.  You don't seem
to grasp the concept of capitalism and libertarianism.

If hippies came up with a good idea I'll be more than happy to run with
it.  Sure I disagree with their life style, pretty sure I do that for
the vast majority of the planet.  They aren't special and at least they
created something for me to play with.  What have you and your awesome
friends done for me?  Nothing, so again, get off my Internet.

> * The "I Got Flamed By Theo de Raadt" t-shirts will continue to sell
>   very well.  (And I didn't even have to betray any technical ignorance
>   to earn that distinction - my C skills have been rotting since the
>   days of MS-DOS, tee hee hee.)  Our fun little game of trying to

Not just your C.  Your brain seems to be in pretty sad shape.

>   research and deduct the exact political and philosophical leanings of
>   various BSD VIP's will go on indefinitely.

As an OpenBSD developer I can tell you that our community is a whole
bunch of people that are in it for very different reasons.  They range
from kumbaya to money to good ol' paranoia.  Any one person's views are
completely irrelevant.  It is a put up or shut up community.

> * This advocacy@ mailing list will probably remain ~95% off-topic spam,
>   but I doubt any of it will ever provoke as much anger as I did (ex.
>   several profanity-filled private e-mails).  Those people need to
>   examine the root causes of their anger...  It seems that a lot of

The root cause is easy.  Some schmuck on the Internet who has not
contributed a single line of code is making shit up because of his
religious beliefs.  The root cause is your dumb ass is too stupid
to realize how worthless and unwelcome your comments are.  Your
inability to realize that you don't get to vote or influence someone
else's hard work.  You are nothing but hollow and uninteresting prick.

>   FLOSS programmers are disproportionately jumpy these days - that's
>   obviously too narrow an observation to lead to any conclusions, but
>   could it be that their love for "egoboo" is not being adequately
>   requited?  A lot of FLOSS programmers are coming to re-examine their
>   values in these tough economic times, and this can lead them in
>   several possible directions, from a more business-friendly outlook to
>   a belief that more "free software" should be funded by the state.

And you and I just added more spam.  I shouldn't react to this but I am
a gluten for a good troll.

>   This "elephant in the room" cannot be ignored forever.

The elephant is stupidity.  Nope, it won't ever go away.  We put up with
it every day.  And I just fed the troll again.  Another 5 minutes of my
life I won't ever get back responding to some dumb shit who won't ever
get it.

> 
>   "You can't be neutral on a moving train."
> 
Might want to read up on general relativity as well.