Re: PayPal pool for developer M1 Mac mini for OpenBSD port

Thanks everyone, this is very good news.

Some people are maybe upset by Apple's recent move, but I think OpenBSD devs=
 should be the most enthusiast.

In a world of IT hell, "paradise" (simple, neat) software should welcome "pa=
radise" hardware & infrastructure, this is why there was so much chipping in=
 only a few days I think. "simple, neat" hardware & infrastructure doesn't m=
ean "pull in more energy, make it hotter, more complex, and do everything".

"free software" is really a way to enrich "some companies" to provide them c=
omplex technology for free while labelling "non free" stuff as evil.

Someone has to do simple, neat hard&infra and it has always been Apple. Coop=
erating will certainly lead to good results because companies like Apple put=
 goodness before everything else, otherwise they wouldn't do what they are d=
oing now. (ditching Them)

Just throwing in random opinions for those who mistake free software and goo=
dness, it's not as simple.

Apple Silicon a lot faster and neat for less power, this is the way to the f=
uture.

Of course you cannot disclose everything as soon as you release it because o=
therwise "they" would try to terminate it and nothing would ever be done.

Chippers are wiser than fear mongerers

Kawashima
(just a periodic donator)

> R2/12/04 8:12=E3=80=81Tom Smyth <[email protected]>=E3=81=AE=E3=
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> =EF=BB=BFThanks Patrik,  Marcan, and Theo...
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> Interesting project...  OpenBSD on the M1 :) ...  best of luck with it
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>> On Thu, 3 Dec 2020 at 22:11, Patrick Wildt <[email protected]> wrote:
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>> This really has shown how much interest there is in having OpenBSD
>> running on those machines.  Still, we would all not be here without
>> the OpenBSD project itself.  Not being able to host hackathons due to
>> COVID-19 leaves an impact, and I hope that soon(TM) we'll be able to
>> get back together to shut up and hack.
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>> I'm sure you all love using OpenBSD and hacking on OpenBSD as much as I
>> do, so to help OpenBSD run infrastructure, organize hackathons and to
>> flourish even more, please consider donating!
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>> https://www.openbsdfoundation.org/donations.html
>> https://www.openbsd.org/donations.html
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>> Also a shoutout to marcan, who'll be doing a lot of reverse engineering
>> on the M1.  He's pretty good, and I'm supporting his project by being a
>> patron.  I'm looking forward to his work, because of all the people out
>> there who can do it, he's definitely one of them.
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>> https://www.patreon.com/marcan
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>> Patrick
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>> Am Thu, Dec 03, 2020 at 02:33:34PM -0700 schrieb Ben Goren:
>>> Oh, wow =E2=80=94 it hasn=E2=80=99t even been a full day since I sent th=
is out...and
>> already enough of you have chipped in enough to buy not just a single M1
>> system for Patrick, but also a second one for his partner in crime, Mark
>> Kettenis.
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>>> Thank you to all! This show of generosity and support and excitement is
>> most welcome. (And, frankly, a bit overwhelming.)
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>>> If anybody reading this still wishes to donate to the cause, despite the=

>> immediate needs being met, the money will be put to good use. There are
>> other developers who will eventually need their own hardware, and there a=
re
>> always other sorts of expenses related to development. Feel free to chip i=
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>> at Patrick=E2=80=99s original link:
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>>> https://www.paypal.com/pools/c/8uPSkfNJMp
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>>> ...or, of course, to the OpenBSD general fund (which can *ALWAYS* use
>> donations):
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>>> https://www.openbsd.org/donations.html
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>>> Thanks again, everybody!
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>>> b&
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>>>> On Dec 2, 2020, at 2:59 PM, Ben Goren <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> =EF=BB=BFGreetings, all!
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>>>> Patrick Wildt has set up a PayPal pool to raise funds to purchase an
>> M1 Mac mini so he can start porting OpenBSD to the platform. If you=E2=80=
=99d like
>> to be able to run OpenBSD on an M1 system, now would be a great time to
>> throw some pennies his way.
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>>>> The donation link: https://paypal.me/pools/c/8uPSkfNJMp
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>>>> Read below for an idea of what one might expect if we can get a
>> machine into Patrick=E2=80=99s hands.
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>>>> Cheers,
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>>>> b&
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>>>> Patrick wrote:
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>>>>> Yes, kettenis@ and me are the two ones doing the major work on
>> porting
>>>>> to new devices.  Not sure if kettenis@ is interested, but I can ask
>> him.
>>>>> I definitely am, a Mac Mini as a dedicated machine to do stuff with
>> and
>>>>> not care about what is installed would really help.
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>>>>> Marcan has started a crowdfunding on Patreon.  He's a really capable
>>>>> person, and he'll definitely lay a lot of groundwork needed for
>> porting
>>>>> OpenBSD to the platform.  He apparenetly will also do his work in a
>>>>> dual-licensed fashion, so the BSDs will easily profit from it.
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>>>>> So, the first steps are basically to follow Marcan's work and use all
>>>>> that information and code to port OpenBSD as well.
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>>>>> This *will* take some time, because essentially there are only the
>>>>> binary drivers, but it's doable and I think with a bit of patience
>>>>> we will have OpenBSD running on the M1 as well.
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>>>>> Biggest hurdle, as always, will be support for graphics acceleration.
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> Kindest regards,
> Tom Smyth.