Re: 3.4-beta on B132L and E55 / PCI support

Making, drinking tea and reading an opus magnum from Jochen Kunz:
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> On 2003.09.16 10:40 Paul Weissmann wrote:
> 
> > there is one in the snapshots/hppa directory on the ftp-servers.
> Maybe the mirror I choose was out of sync or I was to dump to wget it.
> Anyway. I have a bootable disk and that is all I wanted. :-) 
> > > BTW: Why did the kernel use the old Sun rarp/bootparamd method? Even
> > > the boot ROM in the 715/100XC supported dhcp/bootp.
> > there's supposedly no intelligent way to pass these options from the
> > pdc (the boot rom) stage 1 loader to later stages, i.e. the kernel.
> Sure. But why does the kernel use the old Sun way insted of the more 
> common dhcp method? Especially as the bootrom uses bootp/dhcp. I 
> haven't used rarp/bootparm to supply a kernel with bootinformations 
> since the NetBSD 1.3 days. 

you do not need it unless you are running root on NFS.
in that case you still need at least bootparams to figure out
the nfs mount points.

> > there is work going on wrt to dino@ and attached devices, esp. on
> > a180 and b-class machines.
> > mickey (the port maintainer) probably can say more about this.
> Sounds good.
> 
> And EISA? I have sick thoughts of an 715/100XC with EISA adapter 
> (already mounted in the machine) and a DEFEA FDDI card (still in the 
> shelf). 
> BTW: I have a 715/33, a 712/60, a 720 and a 755/99 too. 
> > the e-class servers are technically in some aspects just like 712,
> > although their i/o-subsystems partially was implemented w/ hp-pb
> > devices for which there exists no public documentation, judging from
> > hp-ppl on the parisc-linux mailing-list.
> fsck /dev/hp
> So there is really no hope for any hp-pb based machine?
> Sounds like the truoble with GIO32 / GIO64 / XIO in SGI machines... 
> > so, concluding, i think supporting a hppa server which is not able to
> > access local-disks is pretty pointless.
> Diskless NFS root? ;-)

you seem to be talking and demanding awfully lots.
i will be happy to see your diffs next time.

cu

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    paranoic mickey       (my employers have changed but, the name has remained)