Re: More webbrowsers for the list at FAQ8

Stuart Henderson <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.os.openbsd.www
Message-ID <[email protected]>
On 2012/02/01 21:00, Brett wrote:
> 
> > > Some of the browsers available are not on the list at http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq8.html#Browsers. I have added them in the diff below, and also tweaked the explanation on installing/ports vs packages to make it less repetitive.
> > > Brett.
> 
> > 
> > This rewording is putting too much emphasis on installing from ports,
> > packages should be first and more prominent.
> > 
> 
> OK, I reworded that part again. Though why is the policy to
> emphasize packages over ports these days?

1. many people consistently get things wrong with ports

2. it's pointless and slower (much much much slower in the
case of many of these programs)

All the port does is build a package and run pkg_add on it. So in the best
case the results are the same whether you use the port or a pre-built
package. And in the worst case there is a bunch more user frustration
and possibly extra developer time when things go wrong.

> Also since I sent in the last patch, I noticed that kazehakase is no longer in ports, so removed it from the list.

Thanks. I think this is now fine; OK with you nick?


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+++ www/faq/faq8.html	31 Jan 2012 22:57:09 -0000
@@ -1030,7 +1030,7 @@
 <p>
 <a href="http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=lynx&amp;sektion=1">Lynx</a>,
 a text-based browser, is in the base system, and has SSL support.
-Other browsers in the <a href="#Ports">ports tree</a>, include (in
+Other browsers available include (in
 no particular order):
 
 <p>
@@ -1048,8 +1048,6 @@
  <li><a href="http://www.opera.com/">Opera</a> Commercial browser, i386
    only (requires Linux emulation).
  <li><a href="http://www.w3.org/Amaya/">Amaya</a> The W3C's browser and editor.
- <li><a href="http://kazehakase.sourceforge.jp/">Kazehakase</a>, a lightweight
-  browser able to use either the WebKit or Gecko rendering engines.
  <li><a href="http://www.twotoasts.de/index.php?/pages/midori_summary.html">Midori</a>,
    a WebKit-based browser from the Xfce project.
  <li><a href="http://sites.google.com/a/chromium.org/dev/Home">Chromium</a>
@@ -1060,27 +1058,41 @@
  <li><a href="http://www.conkeror.org/">Conkeror</a>
   a keyboard-oriented, highly-customizable, highly-extensible web browser
   based on Mozilla.
+ <li><a href="http://surf.suckless.org/">Surf</a>
+  Extremely minimal webbrowser based on webkit/gtk+. 
+ <li><a href="http://www.dillo.org/">Dillo</a>
+  Fast and lightweight, based on Fast Light ToolKit and custom rendering engine (note: no javascript support).
+ <li><a href="http://www.netsurf-browser.org/">Netsurf</a>
+  Lightweight web browser based on custom rendering engine (note: no javascript support).
+ <li><a href="http://projects.gnome.org/epiphany/">Epiphany</a>
+  GNOME web browser based on webkit.
+ <li><a href="https://code.google.com/p/arora/">Arora</a>
+  Simple Qt4-based browser using WebKit.
 </ul>
 
 <p>
 <b>Console (Text mode) Browsers</b>
 <ul>
- <li><a href="http://elinks.cz/">elinks</a> Feature-rich, can render
+ <li><a href="http://elinks.cz/">Elinks</a> Feature-rich, can render
    both frames and tables, highly customizable.
- <li><a href="http://www.w3m.org/">w3m</a> Has table and frame
+ <li><a href="http://www.w3m.org/">W3M</a> Has table and frame
    support (also has a graphical mode). 
- <li><a href="http://artax.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~mikulas/links/">links</a>
+ <li><a href="http://artax.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~mikulas/links/">Links</a>
    Has table support.
+ <li><a href="http://freecode.com/projects/retawq">Retawk</a>
+  Interactive, multi-threaded text mode web browser.
 </ul>
 
 <p>
-You will find all these in the <a href="faq15.html">packages
-collection</a>.  All the above mentioned browsers are
-located in <tt>/usr/ports/www/</tt> after the installation of the ports
-tree.  Most are also available as pre-compiled 
+Most of the abovementioned browsers are available as pre-compiled
 <a href="faq15.html#PkgMgmt">packages</a>, available on the 
 <a href="../ftp.html">FTP servers</a> and on the 
-<a href="../orders.html">CD-ROM</a>.  As most of the graphical browsers
+<a href="../orders.html">CD-ROM</a>.  
+After the installation of the <a href="#Ports">ports tree</a>, all
+can also be found in the <tt>/usr/ports/www/</tt> directory.
+
+<p>
+As most of the graphical browsers
 are very large and require quite some time to download and compile, 
 one should <i>seriously</i> <a href="#PortsvsPkgs">consider</a> the
 use of packages where available.
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