Re: basics

 JC thanks for the detailed reply and for telling me how things work around
the site, also for looking into the MT4 platform, it seems its not as clean
cut as i was hopeing for? i personally have very little spare time to
explore openbsd in more depth, (which is a shame) but maybe in the future i
can revisit the idea? Thankyou for time and input.  



J.C. Roberts-3 wrote:
> 
> On Sat, 31 Jan 2009 17:28:25 -0800 (PST) wickedstuff
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> thanks for the info, once you install openbsd can you update/upgrade
>> it later on with the newer version that is released, with out loosing
>> anything? 
> 
> Yes. 
> 
>> is it a fairly straight forward thing to do? 
> 
> Yes.
> 
> The upgrade process for each release is documented and available
> in the FAQ on the openbsd.org website.
> 
> http://www.openbsd.org/faq/index.html
> 
> Look for the "Upgrade Guide" on the left hand side.
> 
>> do you still have to run a "software" firewall with bsd, or is one
>> built into the bsd program itself? 
> 
> As it seems you know, all firewalls are "software" by definition.
> OpenBSD comes with a very advanced firewall called "pf" (for "Packet
> Filter"). In the link above you'll see a link for the "PF User's Guide"
> which will walk you through the basics.
> 
>> also what about anti-virus
>> software? i dont think its required but now's the time to ask. 
> 
> clamav is available on OpenBSD if you want it.
> 
>>I dont
>> spose anybody that has openbsd wants to try downloading mt4 
>> http://www2.interbankfx.com/ibs/welcome.php?group=CFOSFX
>> demo account, just to see if it downloads and loads up, then obviously
>> delate the program after and report back, it would save me installing
>> openbsd and finding out MT4 does load? id be very greatful if anybody
>> was willing to do this and im sure new ppl to the forum later on
>> would be most greatful as well. 
> 
> The person who wants to know if MT4 will run on OpenBSD is you, and
> possibly only you, so your rhetoric of other "new ppl" is completely
> disingenuous.
> 
> You need to grasp a fundamental point: 
> 
> ***  People who run OpenBSD *enjoy* doing their own work.  ***
> 
> If you do not *enjoy* doing your own work to figure things out, answer
> your own questions, and find your own solutions, then you'll probably be
> better off running some other operating system. Only if you show your
> own effort will people around here be willing to give you a hand.
> 
> With this said, I know how much of a royal pain in the ass trading
> applications can be, simply because I've dealt with them since their
> inception. I did look at the registration link you posted, and I even
> tried to look up more about "MT4" but I didn't get very far. From the
> few glances I made, "MT4" seems to be "MetaTrader 4" and exists for a
> few different platforms (MS-Windows, Mobile, ?). It also seems this
> program gets "re-branded" by various brokerages. Unfortunately, I did
> not find any real technical details about the program. If it is just a
> native MS-Windows executable, making it run with in a virtual machine
> might be possible, but the only thing you'd really gain is instability
> and decreased performance.
> 
> On the other hand, if it is a JAVA application (wrapped within a
> MS-Windows installer), it might be possible to get it running natively
> on OpenBSD. I've had success getting a few Java based trading programs
> to run on OpenBSD, such as www.thinkorswim.com. Recently, there has
> also been some open source work done in the trading platform field,
> such as marketcetera.com and probably a lot of others that I don't know
> about.
> 
> http://www.thinkorswim.com
> http://www.marketcetera.com
> 
>> The comments made to go  have a look at "i386-laptops.html " excuse my
>> ignorance on this one, is this on this forum website? or do i cut n
>> paste that 386 into my browser? thanks everybody coming down to my
>> "basic" level its all part of learning and i appreciate it. 
> 
> Everyone starts somewhere! :-)
> 
> As with all new things, it will take some time for you to get used to
> the nomenclature typically used on the openbsd mailing lists. It's
> common for people to post "something.html" rather than giving the full
> URL to the page. In this case, you were given the wrong page name. The
> correct page name is "i386-laptop.html" (without the "s"), so the full
> URL would be:
> 
> http://www.openbsd.org/i386-laptop.html
> 
> Another thing you'll need to get used to is the way people type
> references to the software manuals ("man pages") available on OpenBSD
> systems. For example, the manual for the "ls" command is typically
> written as "ls(1)" where the number of the section is placed in
> parenthesis. You can access the manuals either from the command line,
> or through a web browser.
> 
> 	$ man 1 ls
> or
> 	http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi	
> 
> Needless to say, reading the entire FAQ and any relevant manuals is
> always expected. If you get a terse reply like "ls(1)" it means the
> answer you want is in the man page you failed to read.
> 
> -- 
> J.C. Roberts
> 
> 
> 

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