Re: port selfupdate, rsync, and tight firewalls

>>> On Tue, Sep 5, 2006 at  1:36 PM, in message
<[email protected]>, James Berry
<[email protected]> wrote: 
> Johnathan,
> 
> No, we don't plan to change this in the very near term. Yes, we will 

> be changing it somewhere in the mid- term, but I can't tell you to  
> what it will be changed. There's some chance that we may move away  
> from use of rsync altogether, toward a more http- only solution like 

> subversion over http. Or that the rsync hostname will become:  
> rsync.macports.org.
> 
> James
> 
> 

Who is the who in 'we' that makes these decisions?  Better yet, who
should I try to convince that an http-only solution behind Subversion is
a more practical solution for those of us behind tight firewalls.  After
all port 80 is always accessible. 

> On Sep 5, 2006, at 11:24 AM, Johnathan Gifford wrote:
> 
>> With all the changes going on with the migration from DarwinPorts
to
>> MacPorts, is the rsync URL going to change when doing a selfupdate?
>> Currently it is pointing to
>> rsync://rsync.darwinports/org/dpupdate/dports.  I need to know. 
The
> 
> Note, that should be:
> 
> 	rsync://rsync.darwinports.org/dpupdate/dports
> 

Yep.  I've got a fat finger, can you tell? :-)

>> company I work has a very, very tight firewall that blocks rsync,
ftp,
>> and a bunch of other stuff.    In order to get access to those  
>> protocols
>> I have to request each port to be opened.  On top of that, I also
have
>> to let the security folks know which server(s) or domain name(s)
they
>> can talk to so that access can also be restricted.  Hence, why I  
>> need to
>> know if the URL may change, especially the domain name.
>>
>> Argh....  Yes this bites, but it's better than finding each
dependency
>> for a piece of software and building by hand.
>>
>> ** Note to port software makers: Don't always list your ftp sites
>> first, second and so on.  Try to putting an http site as the second
>> location for the code source archive.  **
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Johnathan
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