Re: aqua emulators (was Re: running OS X apps on opendarwin in iMac)

On Sat, 16 Oct 2004 20:38:01 +0000, Mark Farnell
<[email protected]> wrote:
> First, is X11 also supplied along with the Opendarwin installation disk?

That's largely irrelevant to your goals.

> If yes, there is there any Aqua emulators available for running OS X
> application (Mac BSD applications depending on Aqua interface) from the X11
> server (rather than the quartz) on BSD?

You're confused with your terminology. "Aqua" is just a marketing term
for the "GUI". There's an awful lot of technology in OS X that isn't
open-source. The "GUI" is not opensource. I say "GUI" because it's not
just Quartz and the WindowServer, the GUI is also largely provided by
the frameworks (Carbon and Cocoa) which are also not open-source.

No no, there are no "Aqua emulators". That term doesn't even make any sense.

> If not, then is there any Quartz emulators which can run directly on Darwin
> and let the open-source Aqua emulator ron the the Quartz emulator in turn?

What is "Aqua" to you?

There is no open-source implementation of Quartz. There isn't even a
specification for how Quartz works or what functions it supports, it's
all magical and proprietary.

That's right: the WindowServer API is not public. If you want to
interface with the WindowServer, you'll have to use one of the
high-level frameworks.

Even if there was an implementation of Quartz, you wouldn't be able to
run much OS X software, because practically nothing interfaces
directly with it directly as far as the windowing environment goes.

Having said all of that, there is an open-source implementation of
OpenStep, on which Cocoa is based, which gets you some way towards
source-level compatibility with Cocoa applications (although it's
certainly not free effort-wise). Look up GNUstep.

> http://www.xdarwin.org/about/

Don't believe anything you read on xdarwin.org, it's a domain squatted
by that imbecile Mathew Caughron. I don't see what that has to do with
your query, anyway.

By the way, this was basically answered in the FAQ, which gave you a
qualified "No".

 -- Finlay