Re: notes on fossil, ANTS, and 9front/Bell labs controversies
Rodrigo G. López <[email protected]> Sat, 11 Jan 2020 11:41:34 +0100
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--0000000000008b05d2059bdae3c9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i'm sorry, what? lack of TLS? go read 9front's tlssrv(8). it's been there for a while already. -rodri On Sat, Jan 11, 2020, 11:32 AM Steve Simon <[email protected]> wrote: > > fyi i have been running a fossil/venti pair since 2004 and it has been > solid. > > what is too big - honest question. > > i thought the biggest issues are: > > performance - the elegance and generality sacrifice some performance, > though this is not a problem for me. > > lack of a tls fs interface - there is (imho) no excuse for a lack of tls > these days. > > no way for a user in (say) the ventidump group to request an immediate > dump - handy for checkpointing a code release, though justing copying the > release to a new dir is ok. > > no way to push a vac score into the /archive hierarchy - nice for > migrating in other backups. > > all these are fixable and on my todo list but none have happened. > > > On 10 Jan 2020, at 9:37 pm, hiro <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > =EF=BB=BF > >> > >> The major fly in the ointment is the outdated sha1 hash function used > by venti > > > > major? fly? there's no problem with how sha1 is used by venti right now. > > > > a more substantial complaint would be that the venti/fossil system is > > way too big. ------------------------------------------ 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/Ta5071137bc09d294-Mc069a= 15aa29b86932440eee2 Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription --0000000000008b05d2059bdae3c9 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html><html><div dir=3D"auto">i'm sorry, what? lack of TLS?<div dir=3D"= auto"><br /></div><div dir=3D"auto">go read 9front's tlssrv(8). it'= s been there for a while already.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br /></div><div d= ir=3D"auto"><br /></div><div dir=3D"auto">-rodri</div></div><br /><div clas= s=3D"gmail_quote"><div class=3D"gmail_attr" dir=3D"ltr">On Sat, Jan 11, 202= 0, 11:32 AM Steve Simon <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">steve@qui= ntile.net</a>> wrote:<br /></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style= =3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><br /> fyi i have been running a fossil/venti pair since 2004 and it has been soli= d.<br /><br /> what is too big - honest question.<br /><br /> i thought the biggest issues are:<br /><br /> performance - the elegance and generality sacrifice some performance, thoug= h this is not a problem for me.<br /><br /> lack of a tls fs interface - there is (imho) no excuse for a lack of = tls these days.<br /><br /> no way for a user in (say) the ventidump group to request an immediate dump= - handy for checkpointing a code release, though justing copying the relea= se to a new dir is ok.<br /><br /> no way to push a vac score into the /archive hierarchy - nice for migrating= in other backups.<br /><br /> all these are fixable and on my todo list but none have happened.<br /><br = /> > On 10 Jan 2020, at 9:37 pm, hiro <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]= m" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>> wrote:<br = /> > <br /> > <br /> >> <br /> >> The major fly in the ointment is the outdated sha1 hash function u= sed by venti<br /> > <br /> > major? fly? there's no problem with how sha1 is used by venti righ= t now.<br /> > <br /> > a more substantial complaint would be that the venti/fossil system is<= br /> > way too big.<br /><br /> ------------------------------------------<br /> 9fans: 9fans<br /> Permalink: <a href=3D"https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/Ta5071137bc09= d294-M7a56202f84a795cc3e7d9a1e" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_bl= ank">https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/Ta5071137bc09d294-M7a56202f84a= 795cc3e7d9a1e</a><br /> Delivery options: <a href=3D"https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscr= iption" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://9fans.topic= box.com/groups/9fans/subscription</a><br /></blockquote></div></html><div i= d=3D"topicbox-footer" style=3D"margin:10px 0 0;border-top:1px solid #ddd;bo= rder-color:rgba(0,0,0,.15);padding:7px 0;"> <strong><a href=3D"https://9fans.topicbox.com/latest" style=3D"color:inheri= t;text-decoration:none">9fans</a></strong> / 9fans / see <a href=3D"https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans">discussions</a> + <a href=3D"https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/members">participants</a> + <a href=3D"https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription">delivery o= ptions</a> <a href=3D"https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/Ta5071137bc09d294-Mc069a= 15aa29b86932440eee2" style=3D"float:right">Permalink</a> </div> </html>= --0000000000008b05d2059bdae3c9--