Re: Longer-term ROS plan? IIS-compatibility kind of stuff

Zachary Gorden <[email protected]> Fri, 2 Jun 2017 15:46:31 -0500
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The team generally does not do a good job with responding to such queries,
and at least part of this is due to not having a very detailed long term
plan. The developers are all volunteers and work on areas of interest, so
trying to set roadmaps is also not straightforward. With respect to your
specific questions, my answers are likely to be as official as you will get=
.

1) There are no plans for an explicit IIS replacement, if you want to host
websites on ReactOS, you would be better served to just run apache or nginx
or etc.
2) Not really. .NET support will likely just come from Mono support or
using the actual Microsoft provided .NET runtimes. Providing an equivalent
is technically outside the scope of the project, and there has been no
major discussions about what to do about the likes of WinRT (the "new"
Windows Runtime) which relies on .NET technologies, or which at least
exposes functionality via .NET.
3) A few remarks here and there, nothing particularly serious.
4) No actual discussions. Assuming the project ever built this kind of
error tracking and reporting system, which can be useful, exactly what
information was being collected would be publicized and it would almost
certainly be opt-in.

On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 11:31 AM, ck raju <[email protected]> wrote:

> Its weekend.. Just hang on... Help is around the corner...
>
>
> On Friday, 2 June 2017, fc <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > tap, tap, tap ... Is this mike on?
> >
> > OK, is there a better place to ask this -- or is this list dead?
> >
> >
> > -------- Forwarded Message --------
> > Subject: Longer-term ROS plan? IIS-compatibility kind of stuff
> > Date: Fri, 26 May 2017 16:14:44 -0400
> > From: fc <[email protected]>
> > To: [email protected]
> >
> > Hello all:
> >
> > I am interested in replacing Windows 2003 server
> > and hopefully Windows 2008 server (hell, And Windows 7)
> > with ROS some day.
> > I have seen these:
> >
> > http://reactos.org/wiki/Version_Status
> >
> > http://reactos.org/wiki/Testing_Central
> >
> >
> > But
> >
> > 1. is there thinking/planning on how to replace, or
> > use, things like Internet Information Server under ROS?
> >
> > 2. I see some net framework work;
> > but is there a stated goal as to if and what versions of .NET will be
> > supported?
> >
> > 3. Has this project drawn any sort of interest from Microsoft?
> >
> > 4. You Are being mindful to stay away from any of the
> > Microsoft Telemetry stuff, yes?
> >
> >
> > ... this telemetry stuff:
> >
> > "Recently Reddit user "sammiesdog" posted claims that Visual Studio's
> C++ compiler was automatically adding function calls to Microsoft's
> telemetry services.  The screenshot accompanying their post showed how a
> simple 5 line CPP file produced an assembly language file that included a
> function call titled  =E2=80=9Ctelemetry_main_invoke_trigger=E2=80=9D.
> >
> > The ensuing discussion then revolved around how to disable this
> unannounced =E2=80=9Cfeature=E2=80=9D while also speculating its purpose.=
  =E2=80=9Csammiesdog=E2=80=9D
> noted that this appears in release builds, while user =E2=80=9Cssylvan=E2=
=80=9D also
> indicated that it appeared in debug builds too.  The telemetry function i=
s
> intended to communicate with ETW. "
> >
> > Thank you!
> >
> >
> > On 4/28/2017 5:14 AM, victor martinez wrote:
> >
> > Hi guys!
> >
> > We made it!
> >
> > But we need your help to be in the top 5! Just 24 hours to do it!
> >
> > ReactOS has been selected as one of the most important projects in two
> different categories in the OpenAwards, an international opensource event
> based in Madrid. The 5 most voted will be widely announced, PRed, and
> finally one of them will be selected as a winner. The exposure is a need
> for us, you know that, so please help us by casting a vote. Takes just a
> second.
> >
> > Categories are:
> >
> > - Best Opensource Community:  https://a.cstmapp.com/p/18092?fromgroup=
=3D1#
> >
> > - Most innovative project:  https://a.cstmapp.com/p/18085?fromgroup=3D1
> >
> > Instructions:
> >
> > - Find ReactOS in each link.
> >
> > - Click in the button which says "Votar" (Vote) next to it.
> >
> > - It asks for a Name, Surname, an a valid email. Please confirm the
> vote!.
> >
> > - Done.
> >
> > I'm sure we can push ReactOS to the top!
> >
> > Let's surprise them with our voting boost!
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Ros-general mailing list
> > [email protected]
> > http://www.reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-general
> >
>
> --
> CK Raju
>
>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div><div><div>The team generally does not do a good =
job with responding to such queries, and at least part of this is due to no=
t having a very detailed long term plan. The developers are all volunteers =
and work on areas of interest, so trying to set roadmaps is also not straig=
htforward. With respect to your specific questions, my answers are likely t=
o be as official as you will get.<br><br></div>1) There are no plans for an=
 explicit IIS replacement, if you want to host websites on ReactOS, you wou=
ld be better served to just run apache or nginx or etc.<br></div>2) Not rea=
lly. .NET support will likely just come from Mono support or using the actu=
al Microsoft provided .NET runtimes. Providing an equivalent is technically=
 outside the scope of the project, and there has been no major discussions =
about what to do about the likes of WinRT (the &quot;new&quot; Windows Runt=
ime) which relies on .NET technologies, or which at least exposes functiona=
lity via .NET.<br></div>3) A few remarks here and there, nothing particular=
ly serious.<br></div>4) No actual discussions. Assuming the project ever bu=
ilt this kind of error tracking and reporting system, which can be useful, =
exactly what information was being collected would be publicized and it wou=
ld almost certainly be opt-in.<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div=
 class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 11:31 AM, ck raju <span dir=
=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">ck.=
[email protected]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quot=
e" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">=
Its weekend.. Just hang on... Help is around the corner...<div class=3D"HOE=
nZb"><div class=3D"h5"><br><br>On Friday, 2 June 2017, fc &lt;<a href=3D"ma=
ilto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]=
</a>&gt; wrote:<br>&gt;<br>&gt; tap, tap, tap ... Is this mike on?<br>&gt;<=
br>&gt; OK, is there a better place to ask this -- or is this list dead?<br=
>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt; -------- Forwarded Message --------<br>&gt; Subject: =
Longer-term ROS plan? IIS-compatibility kind of stuff<br>&gt; Date: Fri, 26=
 May 2017 16:14:44 -0400<br>&gt; From: fc &lt;[email protected]&gt;=
<br>&gt; To: <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">R=
[email protected]</a><br>&gt;<br>&gt; Hello all:<br>&gt;<br>&gt; I am =
interested in replacing Windows 2003 server<br>&gt; and hopefully Windows 2=
008 server (hell, And Windows 7)<br>&gt; with ROS some day.<br>&gt; I have =
seen these:<br>&gt;<br>&gt; <a href=3D"http://reactos.org/wiki/Version_Stat=
us" target=3D"_blank">http://reactos.org/wiki/<wbr>Version_Status</a><br>&g=
t;<br>&gt; <a href=3D"http://reactos.org/wiki/Testing_Central" target=3D"_b=
lank">http://reactos.org/wiki/<wbr>Testing_Central</a><br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&=
gt; But<br>&gt;<br>&gt; 1. is there thinking/planning on how to replace, or=
<br>&gt; use, things like Internet Information Server under ROS?<br>&gt;<br=
>&gt; 2. I see some net framework work;<br>&gt; but is there a stated goal =
as to if and what versions of .NET will be<br>&gt; supported?<br>&gt;<br>&g=
t; 3. Has this project drawn any sort of interest from Microsoft?<br>&gt;<b=
r>&gt; 4. You Are being mindful to stay away from any of the<br>&gt; Micros=
oft Telemetry stuff, yes?<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt; ... this telemetry stuff:=
<br>&gt;<br>&gt; &quot;Recently Reddit user &quot;sammiesdog&quot; posted c=
laims that Visual Studio&#39;s C++ compiler was automatically adding functi=
on calls to Microsoft&#39;s telemetry services.=C2=A0 The screenshot accomp=
anying their post showed how a simple 5 line CPP file produced an assembly =
language file that included a function call titled =C2=A0=E2=80=9Ctelemetry=
_main_invoke_<wbr>trigger=E2=80=9D.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; The ensuing discussion =
then revolved around how to disable this unannounced =E2=80=9Cfeature=E2=80=
=9D while also speculating=C2=A0its purpose.=C2=A0 =E2=80=9Csammiesdog=E2=
=80=9D noted that this appears in release builds, while user =E2=80=9Cssylv=
an=E2=80=9D also indicated that it appeared in debug builds too.=C2=A0 The =
telemetry function is intended to communicate with ETW. &quot;<br>&gt;<br>&=
gt; Thank you!<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt; On 4/28/2017 5:14 AM, victor martine=
z wrote:<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Hi guys!<br>&gt;<br>&gt; We made it!<br>&gt;<br>&g=
t; But we need your help to be in the top 5! Just 24 hours to do it!<br>&gt=
;<br>&gt; ReactOS has been selected as one of the most important projects i=
n two different categories in the OpenAwards, an international opensource e=
vent based in Madrid. The 5 most voted will be widely announced, PRed, and =
finally one of them will be selected as a winner. The exposure is a need fo=
r us, you know that, so please help us by casting a vote. Takes just a seco=
nd.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Categories are:<br>&gt;<br>&gt; - Best Opensource Commu=
nity: =C2=A0<a href=3D"https://a.cstmapp.com/p/18092?fromgroup=3D1#" target=
=3D"_blank">https://a.cstmapp.com/p/<wbr>18092?fromgroup=3D1#</a><br>&gt;<b=
r>&gt; - Most innovative project: =C2=A0<a href=3D"https://a.cstmapp.com/p/=
18085?fromgroup=3D1" target=3D"_blank">https://a.cstmapp.com/p/<wbr>18085?f=
romgroup=3D1</a><br>&gt;<br>&gt; Instructions:<br>&gt;<br>&gt; - Find React=
OS in each link.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; - Click in the button which says &quot;Vot=
ar&quot; (Vote) next to it.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; - It asks for a Name, Surname, =
an a valid email. Please confirm the vote!.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; - Done.<br>&gt;=
<br>&gt; I&#39;m sure we can push ReactOS to the top!<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Let&#=
39;s surprise them with our voting boost!<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt; _________=
_____________________<wbr>_________________<br>&gt; Ros-general mailing lis=
t<br>&gt; <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">Ros-=
[email protected]</a><br>&gt; <a href=3D"http://www.reactos.org/mailman/l=
istinfo/ros-general" target=3D"_blank">http://www.reactos.org/<wbr>mailman/=
listinfo/ros-general</a><br>&gt;<br><br></div></div><span class=3D"HOEnZb">=
<font color=3D"#888888">-- <br>CK Raju<br><br><br><br><br><br><br>
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