Re: Status Meeting (November 2020)

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From: Colin Finck <[email protected]>
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Subject: Re: [ros-dev] Status Meeting (November 2020)
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Hello everybody and a happy new year!

Am 26.11.2020 um 09:27 schrieb Colin Finck:
> So let's have an open discussion and voting process right here on the=20
> mailing list for everyone to see, to decide this once and for all!
> Just reply to this mail, tell about your reasons - and more importantly=
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> tell whether you support or reject dropping MSVC 2010 support.
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> Votes by CORE REACTOS MEMBERS are then counted on 1ST JANUARY 2021.

1st January has passed and it's time to count the votes cast on the=20
mailing list.
First of all, a big thank you to the people who have submitted their=20
opinions! Your votes matter to get the best possible overview on this top=
ic.

It's a pity that many developers have not replied, when I'm sure that=20
they have an opinion here.
On the other hand, it's quite understandable considering that this is=20
already the 3rd (and definitely last!) time we are debating this matter.

So without further ado, here are the votes everyone can gather from the=20
replies on ros-dev:


Dropping MSVC 2010 support for building ReactOS
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* Colin Finck
* Dominik Hornung
* Ged Murphy
* Mark Jansen
* Stanislav Motylkov
* Victor Perevertkin

Keeping MSVC 2010 support for building ReactOS
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* Doug Lyons
* Herm=C3=A8s B=C3=A9lusca-Ma=C3=AFto
* Joachim Henze
* Oleg Dubinskij


Third discussion, third time it's the same result.
Thanks for providing a clear answer on that!

Note that I haven't applied the "CORE REACTOS MEMBERS" filter here, but=20
that would lead to roughly the same number of votes getting subtracted=20
on both sides.
I also leave it up to you to merge this result with the votes cast in=20
https://github.com/reactos/reactos/pull/2658. However, there is just no=20
calculation where the "Keeping" fraction has a majority.


I'm glad to say that this result allows us to continue improving=20
ReactOS. By not sticking with abandoned compilers like MSVC 2010=20
indefinitely, we can leverage the powers of C99 and C++11 and all=20
third-party projects that have been developed after 2010.

Victor's recent integration of WDF/KMDF has already paved the way for a=20
new storage stack that many of you could already test.
And an import of libc++ would finally fix the mess that our current C++=20
STL support is.


Cheers,

Colin


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