Re: U60, DVD player, and hard drive
Mauricio Tavares <[email protected]>
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On Sun, 2009-01-04 at 14:09 +1100, Neil Griffin wrote:
> Hmm,
> it is somewhat curious.
>
You can say that twice.
> At the OBP prompt you can just type 'help' which will show you the
> available functions available.... 'test' being one of them.
>
> {0} ok help
> Enter 'help command-name' or 'help category-name' for more help
> (Use ONLY the first word of a category description)
> Examples: help select -or- help line
> Main categories are:
> Repeated loops
> Defining new commands
[...]
> {0} ok help diag
> test <device-specifier> Run selftest method for specified device
> Examples:
> test floppy - test floppy disk drive
> test net - test net
> test scsi - test scsi
> test-all Execute test for all devices with selftest method
>
Here is what I've done: first I removed my sunpci II and 4 port
ethernet card off the machine. Right now there are no extra cards in the
pci bus just in case they could be interfering with my adventures. Then
I ran the test-all thingie:
{0} ok test-all
Testing /SUNW,ffb@1e,0
Testing /pci@1f,4000/scsi@3,1
No targets found
Selftest failed. Return code = -1
Testing /pci@1f,4000/scsi@3
Testing /pci@1f,4000/network@1,1
Internal loopback test -- succeeded.
Transceiver check -- passed
Testing /pci@1f,4000/ebus@1/fdthree@14,3023f0
Testing floppy disk system. A formatted disk should be in the drive.
Test succeeded.
{0} ok
The test floppy was a msdos floppy (I think) I found doing nothing here.
I guess short of the tape test, which I expected to have failed as I had
none connected to it, it passed it all. So, I decided to do the scsi
test and even try and see if cdrom is a valid target for a test:
{0} ok test scsi
{0} ok help test
No help available for test
{0} ok test cdrom
{0} ok
I wonder if that meant the cdrom passed its test. Reason I wonder is
because no lights blinked in it, as did in the floppy test. In any case,
feeling a bit confident, I decided to see if it would boot.
{0} ok boot cdrom
Resetting ...
Sun Ultra 60 UPA/PCI (2 X UltraSPARC-II 450MHz), No Keyboard
OpenBoot 3.31, 1536 MB memory installed, Serial #9059181.
Ethernet address 8:0:20:8a:3b:6d, Host ID: 808a3b6d.
Rebooting with command: boot cdrom
Boot device: /pci@1f,4000/scsi@3/disk@6,0:f File and args:
Evaluating: boot cdrom
Can't open boot device
Boot device: disk File and args:
/
Type 'go' to resume
{0} ok
Sounds familiar, right? So, I removed the boot disk and tried again:
Sun Ultra 60 UPA/PCI (2 X UltraSPARC-II 450MHz), No Keyboard
OpenBoot 3.31, 1536 MB memory installed, Serial #9059181.
Ethernet address 8:0:20:8a:3b:6d, Host ID: 808a3b6d.
Initializing Memory -
{0} ok boot cdrom
Boot device: /pci@1f,4000/scsi@3/disk@6,0:f File and args:
Can't open boot device
{0} ok
Then I put the boot disk back and removed my /export disk:
Sun Ultra 60 UPA/PCI (2 X UltraSPARC-II 450MHz), No Keyboard
OpenBoot 3.31, 1536 MB memory installed, Serial #9059181.
Ethernet address 8:0:20:8a:3b:6d, Host ID: 808a3b6d.
Boot device: disk File and args:
{0} ok boot cdrom
Finally, I removed both disks:
Boot device: /pci@1f,4000/scsi@3/disk@6,0:f File and args:
SunOS Release 5.10 Version Generic_137137-09 64-bit
Copyright 1983-2008 Sun Microsystems, Inc. All rights reserved.
Use is subject to license terms.
Configuring devices.
Using RPC Bootparams for network configuration information.
Attempting to configure interface hme0...
Type 'go' to resume
{0} ok
As expected from my first post, it booted fine (I stopped it).
>
> If you try 'test cdrom' this may test functionality of the DVD...
> although not all devices can be tested using this method... and I am
> not sure if 'cdrom' is one of them.
>
> I have attached a useful OBP information page but you can also grab
> hold of the full OBP documents from
> http://docs.sun.com/app/docs/coll/216.1?l=en&q=OpenBoot+3.x (Note not
> all functions are available on all versions of OBP).
>
> Also I checked that your DVD is running the latest firmware
> revision... 1009, so there are no updates for this. (You can see the
> firmware revision as the last four digits of the drive
> identification... SD-M14011009. (I have a U80 with this same drive as
> well).
>
> So unless the DVD is somehow defective, and the ejection problem kinda
> suggests something is amiss, I can only think it might also be a
> system firmware issue. The latest/last version of OBP 3.11. Type
At this point in time I myself am out of ideas. I am even considering
if the motherboard itself is boink.
> '.version' at the OBP prompt. You can upgrade the firmware if it less
> than the latest although there are always risks involved in doing this
> although I have done this many times on Sun hardware and not had any
> problems and of course it doesn't guarantee that this will fix the
> problem.
>
Mine is reporting as 3.31...?
{0} ok .version
Release 3.31 Version 0 created 2001/07/25 20:31
OBP 3.31.0 2001/07/25 20:31
POST 2.0.3 2000/07/31 15:28
{0} ok
> But I guess it gets back to the point that you did install Sol10 on
> the U60 with an earlier release it just seems to be a problem with the
> latest release. Perhaps the latest version of Sol10 (u6) has tweaked
> something which is causing this problem.
>
And, as I mentioned above, if I remove the hard drives it boots fine.
> I wonder if anyone else has some good insights into the problem.
>
> Cheers
>
>
> Mauricio Tavares wrote:
> > On Sat, 2009-01-03 at 17:41 +1100, Neil Griffin wrote:
> >
> > > Mauricio,
> > > I presume if you boot back into Sol10 from the HDDs that
> > > the O/S can read the Sol10 DVDs OK. It seems to be if you want to boot
> > >
> >
> > Actually not. Which is quite weird. Ok, let me be more accurate:
> > sometimes it will but most of the time it will not. That originally, and
> > the fact that a "eject cdrom" command is not opening the drive, made me
> > think the machine is not talking to the drive, possibly a loosen cable.
> > But, the machine has been sitting on the same location undisturbed for
> > some 2 years now. And, I have read disks out of that drive in the latter
> > part of last year without a problem. Combined to the fact that all I
> > have to do to have the machine read the dvd is to remove the hard drives
> > -- leaving the cd alone -- and we reach the root of my confusion.
> >
> >
> > > from the Sol10 DVD that problems occur, yet you said that you had
> > > installed the current Sol10 from you old Sol10 DVD? If that was the case
> > >
> >
> > Exactly. And that was a time Sun would send free a Sol10 box with the
> > intel and sparc install disks plus a disk with the studio. It worked
> > fine; I even still have the log files (I had my sparc 20 connecting to
> > the U60 using tip + script through the serial port. This way I could ssh
> > to the other machine and then check the status of the installation.
> >
> >
> > > and nothing else has changed since, then any BIOS upgrades would
> > > probably have no effect.
> > >
> > >
> > You are probably right. Problem is I do not not know whatever I can do
> > next.
> >
> >
> > > You might try the OBP tests although I am not sure if the CDROM/DVD is
> > > covered by this and whether it would show up the abnormalities you are
> > > experiencing.
> > >
> > >
> > I do not know how to do that. Do you have an url/info on that?
> >
> >
> > > Regards
> > >
> > >
> > > Mauricio Tavares wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Sat, 2009-01-03 at 13:20 +1100, Neil Griffin wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Hi Mauricio,
> > > > > did you try a 'probe-scsi-all' at the OBP prompt
> > > > > with the HDDs installed to see that all devices were correctly recognised?
> > > > >
> > > > > On my U60...
> > > > >
> > > > > {0} ok probe-scsi-all
> > > > > Target 0
> > > > > Unit 0 Disk COMPAQ WDE9100S 1.40
> > > > > Target 1
> > > > > Unit 0 Disk COMPAQ BD018122C0 3B08
> > > > > Target 6
> > > > > Unit 0 Removable Read Only device TOSHIBA XM6201TASUN32XCD1103
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > Mine kinda looks like this:
> > > >
> > > > {0} ok probe-scsi-all
> > > > This command may hang the system if a Stop-A or halt command
> > > > has been executed. Please type reset-all to reset the system
> > > > before executing this command.
> > > > Do you wish to continue? (y/n) y
> > > > /pci@1f,4000/scsi@3,1
> > > >
> > > > /pci@1f,4000/scsi@3
> > > > Target 0
> > > > Unit 0 Disk IBM IC35L036UCDY10-0S23C
> > > > Target 1
> > > > Unit 0 Disk QUANTUM ATLAS10K3_73_SCA020W
> > > > Target 6
> > > > Unit 0 Removable Read Only device TOSHIBA DVD-ROM SD-M14011009
> > > >
> > > > {0}
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Also a 'devalias' shows
> > > > >
> > > > > {0} ok devalias
> > > > > screen /SUNW,afb@1d,0
> > > > > elite /SUNW,afb@1d,0
> > > > > creator /SUNW,ffb@1e,0
> > > > > pgx /pci@1f,4000/SUNW,m64B@5
> > > > > net /pci@1f,4000/network@1,1
> > > > > disk /pci@1f,4000/scsi@3/disk@0,0
> > > > > cdrom /pci@1f,4000/scsi@3/disk@6,0:f
> > > > > tape /pci@1f,4000/scsi@3/tape@4,0
> > > > > tape1 /pci@1f,4000/scsi@3/tape@5,0
> > > > > tape0 /pci@1f,4000/scsi@3/tape@4,0
> > > > > disk6 /pci@1f,4000/scsi@3/disk@6,0
> > > > > disk5 /pci@1f,4000/scsi@3/disk@5,0
> > > > > disk4 /pci@1f,4000/scsi@3/disk@4,0
> > > > > disk3 /pci@1f,4000/scsi@3/disk@3,0
> > > > > disk2 /pci@1f,4000/scsi@3/disk@2,0
> > > > > disk1 /pci@1f,4000/scsi@3/disk@1,0
> > > > > disk0 /pci@1f,4000/scsi@3/disk@0,0
> > > > > scsi /pci@1f,4000/scsi@3
> > > > > floppy /pci@1f,4000/ebus@1/fdthree
> > > > > ttyb /pci@1f,4000/ebus@1/se:b
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > {0} ok devalias
> > > > screen /SUNW,ffb@1e,0
> > > > net /pci@1f,4000/network@1,1
> > > > disk /pci@1f,4000/scsi@3/disk@0,0
> > > > cdrom /pci@1f,4000/scsi@3/disk@6,0:f
> > > > tape /pci@1f,4000/scsi@3,1/tape@4,0
> > > > tape1 /pci@1f,4000/scsi@3,1/tape@5,0
> > > > tape0 /pci@1f,4000/scsi@3,1/tape@4,0
> > > > disk6 /pci@1f,4000/scsi@3/disk@6,0
> > > > disk5 /pci@1f,4000/scsi@3/disk@5,0
> > > > disk4 /pci@1f,4000/scsi@3/disk@4,0
> > > > disk3 /pci@1f,4000/scsi@3/disk@3,0
> > > > disk2 /pci@1f,4000/scsi@3/disk@2,0
> > > > disk1 /pci@1f,4000/scsi@3/disk@1,0
> > > > disk0 /pci@1f,4000/scsi@3/disk@0,0
> > > > scsi /pci@1f,4000/scsi@3
> > > > floppy /pci@1f,4000/ebus@1/fdthree
> > > > ttyb /pci@1f,4000/ebus@1/se:b
> > > > ttya /pci@1f,4000/ebus@1/se:a
> > > > keyboard! /pci@1f,4000/ebus@1/su@14,3083f8:forcemode
> > > > keyboard /pci@1f,4000/ebus@1/su@14,3083f8
> > > > mouse /pci@1f,4000/ebus@1/su@14,3062f8
> > > > name aliases
> > > > {0}
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > which suggests the HDDs and CDROM are on the one SCSI channel. Note that
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > Now, that does confuse me. I mean, I've always thought that if you keep
> > > > the scsi2 devices from the higher speed ones.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > my CDROM is not a DVD although I have other Ultra's that have DVDs but I
> > > > > don't think this should matter.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > I do agree. And, that drive has worked fine before. This smells like
> > > > termination issue.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Regards
> > > > >
> > > > > ng
> > > > >
> > > > > Mauricio Tavares wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Something on this show does not make sense to me: I was going to
> > > > > > upgrade the Solaris 10 version in my Ultra 60. So, I slap the DVD I
> > > > > > burned into the drive, boot the machine up, and tell it to boot off the
> > > > > > dvd just like I did it the last time. But the outcome is rather
> > > > > > different:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > {0} ok boot cdrom
> > > > > > Boot device: /pci@1f,4000/scsi@3/disk@6,0:f File and args:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Can't open boot device
> > > > > >
> > > > > > {0}
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Fine, I thought, so I tried to boot using the Solaris 10 DVD I used to
> > > > > > install the OS years ago. I had the very same outcome. Then, out of the
> > > > > > blue, I pulled out both hard drives and tried again. This time it
> > > > > > actually started fine:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > {0} ok boot cdrom
> > > > > > Boot device: /pci@1f,4000/scsi@3/disk@6,0:f File and args:
> > > > > > SunOS Release 5.10 Version Generic_137137-09 64-bit
> > > > > > Copyright 1983-2008 Sun Microsystems, Inc. All rights reserved.
> > > > > > Use is subject to license terms.
> > > > > > Configuring devices.
> > > > > > Using RPC Bootparams for network configuration information.
> > > > > > Attempting to configure interface qfe3...
> > > > > > NOTICE: SUNW,qfe3: No response from Ethernet network : Link Down - cable
> > > > > > proble?
> > > > > > Skipped interface qfe3
> > > > > > Attempting to configure interface qfe2...
> > > > > > NOTICE: SUNW,qfe2: No response from Ethernet network : Link Down - cable
> > > > > > proble?
> > > > > > NOTICE: SUNW,qfe2: No response from Ethernet network : Link Down - cable
> > > > > > proble?
> > > > > > Skipped interface qfe2
> > > > > > Attempting to configure interface qfe1...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Am I missing something here? To me, it does not make sense that the dvd
> > > > > > player gets annoyed when I slap one of the hard drives in the machine.
> > > > > > AFAIK, the hard drives and the CD/DVD/whatever are in two distinct scsi
> > > > > > chains.
> > > > > >
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