Re: Agaves seen in cultivation in Tucson

Dear Breck,

Here is a picture of Agave 'Edward Hummel' that I keep reading about.

http://www.rth.org/occss/1998show/agave%20'edward%20hummel'_Thumb.jpg

Could it be the same as Agave attenuata 'Red Margin', said to be a garden hybrid between A.attenuata and A.shawii? Does anyone have any more information on either hybrid and where the names were first published?

http://www.cacti.com/assets/images/agatrm1.JPEG

http://spazioweb.inwind.it/piantegrasse/schede_succulente/agave_attenuata%20red%20margin.htm


Could Agave toumeyana var. "oenna" be a misspelling of Agave toumeyana var. bella, a small growing diploid variety of the species native to central Arizona? It is now named Agave toumeyana ssp. bella.

http://www.dbg.org/Involved/agave_toumeyana.html

http://www.desert-tropicals.com/Plants/Agavaceae/Agave_bella.html


Gentry (1982) places Agave ocahui and A. pelona in different sections. The two are very different in flower. A.ocahui has the flowers on a very short thickened pedicel while A.pelona has flowers on an elongate slender pedicel.

http://www.desert-tropicals.com/Plants/Agavaceae/Agave_ocahui.html

http://www.desert-tropicals.com/Plants/Agavaceae/Agave_longifolia.html

http://www.desert-tropicals.com/Plants/Agavaceae/Agave_pelona.html

Cereusly Steve

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: catevala 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2002 9:27 PM
  Subject: [AGAVACEAE] Agaves seen in cultivation in Tucson


  I went out to the Arizona-Sonora Desert Museum outside of Tucson last 
  Friday with my two young sons.  They've really improved their signage 
  out there on plants since I was last there several months ago.  Lots 
  of people that day! from 4 Canadian Provinces and at least 25 states 
  judging by the license plates!

  Anyway, whilst there I noticed some interesting agaves.  One was a 
  species called Agave toumeyana var. oenna (sp.?).  A real miniature.  
  Anyone know some basic info on this taxon?  Also seen in container 
  near the restaurant was a handsome hybrid labeled Agave x 'Edward 
  Hummel'.  Anyone know of this one and the parents?

  Also I am a bit confused about two agaves which seem to me to be very 
  similar looking.  I refer to Agave ocahui and A. pelona.  Maybe I 
  have just seen alot of mislabeled plants of one or the other.  
  Nonetheless ocahui seems to be a small version of pelona.  Any sense 
  to this perception?

  Thanks, Breck




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