Re: [Sansevierias] RE: comments on Olga's Sansevieria pictures [2 Attachments]

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Sometimes we fuss at the Thai sellers because they sometimes name their plants not caring so much about their valid botanical names. But to my observation, they are coming up with many new species found in Africa in recent years and are just now making their way into the world of plant collectors. Because of their super great growing environment, they are also able to bring their plants to flowering more readily, and can thus experiment with hybridization more readily than we in northern climates. Along this line, I believe it is a fact that many of their beautiful variegated plants (which command large prices) are brought abut by artificial means using chemicals  (such as colchicine) to induce variegation. Such plants often do not throw variegated pups. Others here may take issue with my views.

Yes, it is true that a highly variegated plant is not as viable as a normal plant. The more yellow or white in a leaf, the less chlorophyll it has. And, of course, plants need chlorophyll, and sun, to make plant sugars. A solid yellow plant on its OWN roots will shortly die UNLESS it is attached to its mother plant via the rhizome. If one of your Hahnii pups ever comes up all yellow, or maybe with a very narrow green margin, it would be best to leave the two plants attached so the mother plant can feed the child. Such highly variegated plants must have the best light you can give to live long and prosper.

A leaf cutting from a Futura 'Variegated' will come up and root as a normal futura. Such a plant is frequently called, S.t.F 'Robusta'. I think the Futura variegated is one of the several  "Sansevieria treasures" in my experience. I attach 2 pictures here for you of mature  Futura 'Variegated'.

----- Original Message -----From: [email protected]: [email protected]: Thu, 30 Jan 2014 05:25:42 -0000 (UTC)Subject: [Sansevierias] RE: comments on Olga's Sansevieria pictures







Hello Mike,
thank you for the comments. I corrected the names but not all of them - half of the photos I don't see for some reason.
You are quite right: many of my plants are very young and the juvenile forms do not look like mature ones.
Besides, many plants are of Thai origin, and the strange names might have been given by their local nurseries and have nothing in common with the real botanical names.
Again, I appreciate your help because I prefer to know the real names of my plants.
And WOW - I'm happy to know that there is a rare sansevieria in my collection! So unexpected and pleasant )
As for the Pink hybrid - it was promised to have pink stripes on the leaves )) no stripes so far, but the plant is also very young, I wonder what it may look like.
As for the S. ballyi minnie, I suppose it is a dwarf form of S. ballyi. I have S.ballyi too and will make a photo of them together to compare.
As for the small yellow rosette - it is very young indeed, my younger son occasionally broke my S. tr. futura var. leaf tip and I planted it into soil. I've added "the mother" picture into the album.
Is it true that such highly variegated pups are not viable?
 
Regards,
Olga


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Hi Olga,
Since we just had a paralyzing snow here yesterday of 10-11 cm (Ha!) I stayed in and looked at all your excellent pictures. You have a very nice collection that I never would have thought could be found in Siberia! Below I have made brief comments on all of them. These are only my opinions. It is very hard to identify plants from pictures. Please ask any questions you might have as others in this group might have been wondering the same thing. Ha!
Mike

Yellow rosette- a highly variegated Golden Hahnii; does not appear to be a Futura type unless very young.

Moonshine mutant- possibly 'Moonshine' which is a Futura type of Sansevieria; I don't know why it was called a 'mutant'

hahnii 'splash' - possibly; the name 'Splash' is new to me

suffruticosa - looks OK; but plant is very young; it will get much bigger with stolons that grow new plants at the tips

stuckyi - maybe, hard to tell; stuckyi sends up very tall, cylindrical leaves up to 2m in length in native habitat.

Namibia - I don't know this name; can't otherwise identify

Trifasciata 'Slipped Stripes' - looks correct; correct name is 'Lilian True'

Dragon Wing - I don't know this name; can't otherwise identify

Fisheri - looks OK; shows a juvenile form and looks like it is showing its first mature leaf.

balyii 'Minnie' - looks ok, but I don't know what separates 'Minnie' from just plain ballyi'

Koko - if this is Koko (and it could be) it is a juvenile form

Trif. 'Frank Neidz' - this is a RARE trifasciata and it looks correct; correct name is S.t. 'Daria'

Lady Charm - I don't know this name; can't otherwise ientify

hahnii crested - correct

S. arborescens - no comment; I never had it; gets 2m tall in habitat!

S. hyacinthoides - no comment

kanlayensis or 'Stella' - the first name sounds wrong to me; I THINK 'Stella' is a hybrid plant; Google the name.

masoniana 2 tones - nice leaves; just called masoniana variegated

Franchisii - spelled Francisii; shows a young plant

pink hybrid - not a name, but no Sansevieria has pink stripes of which I am aware.

bandipur - possibly; no comment

black dragon - I don't know this name

pinguicula - agree

hallii 'pink bat' - possibly, but don't depend on seeing any true pink color - its more reddish brown; needs good sun to bring out color.

hahnii 'streaker' - definitely disagree; looks more like a 'Golden Hahnii' sort to me; Golden Hahnii sometimes has a 'coat of many colors'. I like your plant!

Kirkii v. pulchra 'Coppertone' - agree

hahnii jade dwarf marginated - agree

hahnii silver- agree

hahnii 'favorite - disagree; I would call it 'hahnii variegated'

S, patens - agree; shows a juvenile form

S. 'Samauri' - I don't know this plant; possibly a hybrid










----- Original Message -----From: [email protected]: [email protected]: Wed, 29 Jan 2014 17:47:40 -0000 (UTC)Subject: Re: [Sansevierias] Re: We have a new member


Some of my plants' photos are in the "Olga's sans". The names are given by the suppliers, I'm sorry for the possible mistakes and will be grateful if you correct me.
Olga
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