Re: [Sansevierias] S. 'Socotra' - a Glasshouse invention?

Couple things.

First,
PLEASE let me know if Glasshouse's longiflora is what they say it is -
because my order has not shipped - and I have the opportunity to remove it,
if it's not.

Second,
Here is what they say about Socotra. They do not claim the name - but they
rightly call it a hybrid.

Attractive hybrid: short (in full sun never more than a foot in length)
outarched thick leaves, obtriangular in cross section, with dark bands and
distinct rim form an open armed "rosette"--perfect in a moss basket as new
stolons plunge through. We are not aware of the origin of this modestly
attractive cross--but would appreciate being enlightened.

ALSO
I noticed that they are selling Okeechobee. Somebody on here was asking
about this - Now we know where it came from!


On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 3:14 PM, Jude Haverington <[email protected]>wrote:

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>  [Attachment(s) <#14450ef6e3f22061_TopText> from Jude Haverington
> included below]
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> Some of my Subspicata leaves do have short petioles. You are right; this
> "Socotra" does not have petioles.
> However, the color, and markings, are WAY different from subspicata.
> Here is one of my subspicata for comparison. Very different creature.
> You can also see the petioles on this plant. Note the dark green, mostly
> patternless leaves.
> I have never seen a subspicata that is patterned beyond vague blemishes of
> the same color. (such as mine.)
> This said; would you say that Glasshouse's longiflora is the real deal
> given their photo ?
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>
>
> On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 3:06 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
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>> Its been a number of years since the name S. Socotra was discussed here.
>> Hermine will have to verify this, but I believe this name is not valid. It
>> is a made-up name that implies it came from Socotra. Glasshouse doesn't
>> seem to like plants named with only a collection number. 'Lav. 309' is not
>> a very sexy name.
>>  We have taken Glasshouse Works to the woodshed here over and over again
>> as a purveyor of BAD names. I have visited them personally with my brother,
>> Dale, some 12+ years ago and found few names on their plants. I surmised
>> they are not judicious about accuracy of names, or what they send out.
>> Sansevierias are not their forte, and they don't take kindly to anybody
>> correcting their errors.
>>  Olga made reference to the name 'socotra' in a previous message and I
>> made, and attached here, full scans of the 3 pertinent pages in the *Sansevieria
>> Journal* for any who might want to read what J. Chahinian said about the
>> plant called Socotra. It is a bit confusing for me to follow given my
>> God-given inability to juggle more than 2 concepts in my head at once, but
>> the pages will print on 8.5 X 11 paper which makes it a bit easier.
>>  This whole Socotra / Lake Sibaya / Concina thing makes my head hurt to
>> think about it. The bottom line to me is this about Jude's picture of
>> "Socotra from Glasshouse": Jude, I see no sign of a petiole on your plant.
>> It looks  like it could be S. subspicata. But thats jus' me.
>> M.
>>  ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Jude Haverington <[email protected]>
>> To: [email protected]
>> Sent: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 15:11:43 -0000 (UTC)
>> Subject: Re: ���: ���: [Sansevierias] Sans longiflora [1 Attachment]
>>   [Attachment(s) <#14450ef6e3f22061_14450e856513f4fa_TopText> from Jude
>> Haverington included below]
>>  Hi,
>> Thanks for the lovely photo!
>> I have a photo of my Socotra. I have no idea how big it will get, but it
>> is turning into a very nice plant. It's pretty unusual.
>>
>>  On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 5:50 AM, Цвето Мания <[email protected]> wrote:
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>>>
>>>  Jude had mentioned a Socotra bought from Glasshouseworks and that was
>>> I asked  for a picture of )
>>>
>>> I must have expressed myself incorrectly. Sorry about that. But since we
>>> have a nice discussion of S.longiflora I'd like to show mine too.
>>>
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