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Will definitely try an outdoor shady area where they can also get fresh air
next time. To be honest, I'm not really sure if the pulsar is even a
variety, that's what a friend thought it might be, but I think it's the
same as S. T. 'forescate' with the creamy white center and thin dark green
borders that appear embossed. I wish it were alive to send a pic, but ya
it's just the basic forescate variety I think.
On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 7:25 AM, [email protected] [Sansevierias] <
[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> Mark, you're talking above your pay grade here, aren't you? We're talking
> about sansevierias, not begonias, trilliums and aroids. What is your
> reference that variegated mutations might be an evolutionary trend that
> allows the plant to lose the ability to produce chlorophyll to throw a
> predator into confusion, or the anthropomorphic view that the variegated
> plant cares about the beauty humans might see if it loses the ability to
> produce chlorophyll? Indeed, we often see the mericinal variegated
> sansevieria revert back to an all green leaf - its *natural* condition -
> as if it was saying, "Oops, this was a mistake!". I agree that variegated
> plants are beautiful, I prefer them. But it might well be that
> *cultivation* by admiring humans is the primary reason that variegated
> sansevierias continue to be found in so many collections. Your turn.
> Ben, you are absolutely correct that variegated sansevierias are open to
> sunburn....the more variegation the more susceptible. They are also more
> sensitive to cold, and bruising which leave ugly brown spots. Yet, highly
> variegated plants need the suns light even more because the available
> chlorophyll is feeding the entire plant/leaf. Its a bit of a balancing ac=
t.
> By all means get your sansevierias outside if you can. I have good luck
> with open shade for my variegated plants. Fresh air is also beneficial.
> Please post a picture of trifasciata 'Pulsar'; I don't know this variety.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: mark n suze [email protected] [Sansevierias] <
> [email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Thu, 04 Sep 2014 17:15:31 -0000 (UTC)
> Subject: Re: [Sansevierias] Sansevieria propagation Question
> While the 1st four sentences are of-course absolutely correct, I
> have to point out that the last statement is sorrowfully incorrect:
> "Nature considers variegation an abomination, a weakness, and it
> tries to weed out weakness".
>
> It needs to be pointed-out that there are many species of Passiflora
> which are are ALWAYS variegated IN THEIR WILD NATIVE HABITATS, as
> well as many MANY aroids (such as Aglaeonema, Dieffenbachia,
> Monstera, Rhapidophora, Caladium. Scindapsus, Zantedeschia)....the
> list goes on and on, ...entire populations of native variegated
> Gusmania's here in the Fakahatchee of the Everglades, as-well-as
> Calatheas, the related Marantas, and endless supply of wild gingers,
> Trilliums, Hepatica's, and do i even need to mention Begonia's, also
> many orchids, Sarracenia's etc?, NEED I GO ON? In many cases, this
> is, in evolutionary terms, perhaps a method of confusing would-be
> predators who might not recognize a distinctly variegated plant as
> what would be it's normal host.....
>
> i consider this a wonderful and ingenious method of evolutionary
> trends.
>
> I believe that quite to the contrary, variegated species are
> especially blessed with an extra touch of supremacy and beauty
> apparently reserved for a distinct but vast array of natural, wild,
> plant-life, (as-well-as cultivars) that nature DOES NOT ABHOR!
>
> mark
> in the South of Florida
> On 9/1/2014 11:42 AM,
> [email protected] [Sansevierias] wrote:
>
>
> ......Because a leaf cutting in sansevierias does not
> transfer the genetic "codes" necessary for a variegated
> plant to copy itself. These codes are reserved for the *rhizome*.
> If a variegated sansevieria leaf is severed to make leaf
> cuttings for propagation purposes, it can only produce two
> types of plants: either all green or all albino depending
> on WHERE the new plantlet originates on the leaf-cut
> surface. The young albino plant cannot survive if it is
> detached from the cutting, while the green plantlet will
> be fine. Nature considers variegation an abomination, a
> weakness, and it tries to weed out weakness.
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: Ben Sturgis [email protected] [Sansevierias]
> <[email protected]> <[email protected]>
>
> To: [email protected]
>
> Sent: Sun, 31 Aug 2014 07:03:30 -0000 (UTC)
>
> Subject: [Sansevierias] Sansevieria propagation Question
> Hello guys,
> I was just thinking if reproduction by seed ensures
> genetic diversity and variation in plants, and if
> cuttings produce an exact clone of the parent plant,
> then why do variegated and striated Sansevierias
> reproduce non-variegated and non-striated plants when
> propagated by a leaf cutting?
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Will definitely try an outdoor shady area where they can a=
lso get fresh air next time. To be honest, I'm not really sure if the p=
ulsar is even a variety, that's what a friend thought it might be, but =
I think it's the same as S. T. 'forescate' with the creamy whit=
e center and thin dark green borders that appear embossed. I wish it were a=
live to send a pic, but ya it's just the basic forescate variety I thin=
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>On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 7:25 AM, <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]"=
>[email protected]</a> [Sansevierias] <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=
=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">Sansevierias@yah=
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<p></p><div>Mark, you're talking above your pay grade here, aren&=
#39;t you? We're talking about sansevierias, not begonias, trilliums an=
d aroids. What is your reference that variegated mutations might be an evol=
utionary trend that allows the plant to lose the ability to produce chlorop=
hyll to throw a predator into confusion, or the anthropomorphic view that t=
he variegated plant cares about the beauty humans might see if it loses the=
ability to produce chlorophyll? Indeed, we often see the mericinal variega=
ted sansevieria revert <span style=3D"text-decoration:underline">back</span=
> to an all green leaf - its <em>natural</em> condition - as if it was sayi=
ng, "Oops, this was a mistake!". I agree that variegated plants a=
re beautiful, I prefer them. But it might well be that <em>cultivation</em>=
by admiring humans is the primary reason that variegated sansevierias cont=
inue to be found in so many collections. Your turn.</div>
<div>Ben, you are absolutely correct that variegated sansevierias are open =
to sunburn....the more variegation the more susceptible. They are also more=
sensitive to cold, and bruising which leave ugly brown spots. Yet, highly =
variegated plants need the suns light even more because the available chlor=
ophyll is feeding the entire plant/leaf. Its a bit of a balancing act. By a=
ll means get your sansevierias outside if you can. I have good luck with op=
en shade for my variegated plants. Fresh air is also beneficial. Please pos=
t a picture of trifasciata 'Pulsar'; I don't know this variety.=
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<div><span class=3D"">----- Original Message -----<br>From: mark n suze <a =
href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">limelight@embarq=
mail.com</a> [Sansevierias] <<a href=3D"mailto:Sansevierias@yahoogroups.=
com" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>><br>To: <a href=
=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">Sansevierias@yah=
oogroups.com</a><br></span><div><div class=3D"h5">Sent: Thu, 04 Sep 2014 17=
:15:31 -0000 (UTC)<br>Subject: Re: [Sansevierias] Sansevieria propagation Q=
uestion</div></div></div><div><div class=3D"h5">
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<div>While the 1st four sentences are of-course absolutely correct, I<br> h=
ave to point out that the last statement is sorrowfully incorrect:<br> &quo=
t;Nature considers variegation an abomination, a weakness, and it<br> tries=
to weed out weakness".</div>
<div></div>
<div><br> It needs to be pointed-out that there are many species of Passifl=
ora<br> which are are ALWAYS variegated IN THEIR WILD NATIVE HABITATS, as<b=
r> well as many MANY aroids (such as Aglaeonema, Dieffenbachia,<br> Monster=
a, Rhapidophora, Caladium. Scindapsus, Zantedeschia)....the<br> list goes o=
n and on, ...entire populations of native variegated<br> Gusmania's her=
e in the Fakahatchee of the Everglades, as-well-as<br> Calatheas, the relat=
ed Marantas, and endless supply of wild gingers,<br> Trilliums, Hepatica=
9;s, and do i even need to mention Begonia's, also<br> many orchids, Sa=
rracenia's etc?,=C2=A0 NEED I GO ON?=C2=A0 In many cases, this<br> is, =
in evolutionary terms, perhaps a method of confusing would-be<br> predators=
who might not recognize a distinctly variegated plant as<br> what would be=
it's normal host.....</div>
<div></div>
<div><br> i consider this a wonderful and ingenious method of evolutionary<=
br> trends.</div>
<div></div>
<div><br> I believe that quite to the contrary, variegated species are<br> =
especially blessed with an extra touch of supremacy and beauty<br> apparent=
ly reserved for a distinct but vast array of natural, wild,<br> plant-life,=
(as-well-as cultivars) that nature=C2=A0 DOES NOT ABHOR!</div>
<div></div>
<div><br> mark</div>
<div></div>
<div>in the South of Florida</div>
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<div></div>
<div>On 9/1/2014 11:42 AM,<br><a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" ta=
rget=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a> [Sansevierias] wrote:</div>
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<div>=C2=A0......Because a leaf cutting in sansevierias does not<br> transf=
er the genetic "codes" necessary for a variegated<br> plant to co=
py itself. These codes are reserved for the <em>rhizome</em>.<br> If a vari=
egated sansevieria leaf is severed to make leaf<br> cuttings for propagatio=
n purposes, it can only produce two<br> types of plants: either all green o=
r all albino depending<br> on WHERE the new plantlet originates on the leaf=
-cut<br> surface. The young albino plant cannot survive if it is<br> detach=
ed from the cutting, while the green plantlet will<br> be fine. Nature cons=
iders variegation an abomination, a<br> weakness, and it tries to weed out =
weakness.</div>
<div>----- Original Message -----<br>
<div></div>
<br>From: Ben Sturgis <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_b=
lank">[email protected]</a> [Sansevierias]<br><a href=3D"mailto:Sansevi=
[email protected]" target=3D"_blank"><[email protected]&g=
t;</a><br>
<div></div>
<br>To: <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">S=
[email protected]</a><br>
<div></div>
<br>Sent: Sun, 31 Aug 2014 07:03:30 -0000 (UTC)<br>
<div></div>
<br>Subject: [Sansevierias] Sansevieria propagation Question</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Hello guys,<br>
<div>I was just thinking if reproduction by seed ensures<br> genetic divers=
ity and variation in plants, and if<br> cuttings produce an exact clone of =
the parent plant,<br> then why do variegated and =C2=A0striated Sansevieria=
s<br> reproduce non-variegated and non-striated plants when<br> propagated =
by a leaf cutting?</div>
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