Re: Rail vs road
"'J.H. Crawford' [email protected] [CARFREE_CITIES]" <[email protected]> Sun, 31 Jul 2016 10:34:29 +0545
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--fNkM7sbA23-xVXi4Jk-kYDRtUa4992snOa9UTlf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This is correct. Rail freight uses about 25% of the energy of road freight,= and it is a comparatively simple matter to run trains on electricity, whic= h also gives further savings in the form of recovering braking energy (in s= ome systems). Joel >=20=20 > >Hi all. What seems often to be missing from the road-rail debates I've hea= rd (e.g. at Asian Development Bank) is how much more efficient train engine= s are than truck/bus, and the difference between steel wheels on tracks vs.= rubber on asphalt... As I understand rail involves a much higher up-front = investment and saves vast amounts over the lifespan...as well of course as = saving so much in terms of traffic fatalities, space/land, and on environme= ntal concerns. > > > >From: "Richard Risemberg [email protected] [CARFREE_CITIES]" <CARFREE= [email protected]> >To: [email protected]; [email protected]=20 >Sent: Monday, July 18, 2016 8:29 PM >Subject: [CARFREE_CITIES] Rail vs road > >=20=20 >One big difference between road and rail networks: > >> At a time when public infrastructure investment is falling short, freigh= t railroads are privately investing billions each year to maintain, upgrade= and build their own infrastructure network. > >Article; > >http://www.eastbaytimes.com/opinion/ci_30115287/freight-rail-boosts-bay-ar= ea-states-economy-east > >R > >=97 >Richard Risemberg >http://www.bicyclefixation.com >http://www.SustainableCityNews.com >http://gridlogisticsinc.com >http://www.rickrise.com > > > > ----- ### ----- J.H. Crawford --fNkM7sbA23-xVXi4Jk-kYDRtUa4992snOa9UTlf Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/htm= l4/strict.dtd"> <html> <head> </head> =20 <body style=3D"background-color: #fff;"> <span style=3D"display:none"> </span> <!--~-|**|PrettyHtmlStartT|**|-~--> <div id=3D"ygrp-mlmsg" style=3D"position:relative;"> <div id=3D"ygrp-msg" style=3D"z-index: 1;"> <!--~-|**|PrettyHtmlEndT|**|-~--> <div id=3D"ygrp-text" > =20=20=20=20=20=20 =20=20=20=20=20=20 <p><br> This is correct. Rail freight uses about 25% of the energy of road freight,= and it is a comparatively simple matter to run trains on electricity, whic= h also gives further savings in the form of recovering braking energy (in s= ome systems).<br> <br> Joel<br> <br> > <br> ><br> >Hi all. What seems often to be missing from the road-rail debates I'= ;ve heard (e.g. at Asian Development Bank) is how much more efficient train= engines are than truck/bus, and the difference between steel wheels on tra= cks vs. rubber on asphalt... As I understand rail involves a much higher up= -front investment and saves vast amounts over the lifespan...as well of cou= rse as saving so much in terms of traffic fatalities, space/land, and on en= vironmental concerns.<br> ><br> ><br> ><br> >From: "Richard Risemberg [email protected] [CARFREE_CITIES]&q= uot; <[email protected]><br> >To: [email protected]; [email protected] <br> >Sent: Monday, July 18, 2016 8:29 PM<br> >Subject: [CARFREE_CITIES] Rail vs road<br> ><br> > <br> >One big difference between road and rail networks:<br> ><br> >> At a time when public infrastructure investment is falling short, = freight railroads are privately investing billions each year to maintain, u= pgrade and build their own infrastructure network.<br> ><br> >Article;<br> ><br> >http://www.eastbaytimes.com/opinion/ci_30115287/freight-rail-boosts-bay= -area-states-economy-east<br> ><br> >R<br> ><br> >=97<br> >Richard Risemberg<br> >http://www.bicyclefixation.com<br> >http://www.SustainableCityNews.com<br> >http://gridlogisticsinc.com<br> >http://www.rickrise.com<br> ><br> ><br> ><br> ><br> <br> ----- ### -----<br> J.H. 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