Towards Car Free Towns Conference
Agustin Villegas <agvillegasv-/[email protected]>
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Hi every one Maybe should focus the attention on existing towns with few cars or any, then vote in which one made a Towards Car Free Towns Conference. Randy just write something like that and propose a Marocco Town for the 2007 Towards Car Free Conference. Now I undestand, thanks to his last emails. The cars are a plague, and the cities are for them. In the cities where there are been other conferences, the cars are the Kings: Minneapolis, Bogota. It is more easy began in little town than change an existing city. In cities like San Luis Potosi there are Urban Plans that change as the constructors want. Few families are the constructors and decide the urbanization of the city. "Zaragoza" St was converted for pedestrian maybe 10 years ago. There are other streets now for pedestrian in down town. Every day are more cars in many cities in Mexico and less cyclist and pedestrian The model of US city we are coping now: urban high ways, large supermarket Wall Mart ie. now are low density of population and in the barrios of down town the old part of the city high density. The cities are sick and lost, maybe it is time to leave it, the apocalipsis motorizado de Thiaggo de Brazil sounds apropiate. Could be wrong idea in the concept between "carfree day" and "Towards car free cities Conference" Car free day is maybe the idea that joint us, car free day is where more cars exist ie. in the cities. There are many areas car free: in the desert, in the mountains, .... Cars free cities don't sound logical maybe for the next 3o years, towns, colonies exist. Unless a catastrophe occur hope not. La Havana Cuba had few cars, the other countries in America from right or left have similar cities with a millions of cars: right: US, CAN, MEX, COL left: Ven, Brazil, Arg, Chile Cuba is the exception Regards Agustin GVV www.caminaralaescuela.org city = 100,000 or more inhabitats or How do you define a city? > > > --- [email protected] wrote: > > > Hi Brenda and everyone, > > > > Sorry to write again, but I just wanted to clarify > > that I supported a > > focus on transport in the Bogota conference > > programme. What I wrote was > > intending to focus more on what to do with the > > conference series in the > > future. Of course it's impossible to separate the > > topics of transport > > and urban design. And also most World Carfree > > Network member > > organisations are bicycle advocacy groups, which > > certainly needs to be > > recognised and also not seen as a bad thing! > > > > And while I think the word "proximity" is in > common > > usage as much as the > > word "mobility" (in English and French at least), > my > > point wasn't to > > focus on abstract concepts so much as practical > > applications. In > > Bogota, for example, they have two streets joined > in > > a "t" shape (La > > Zona Rosa T) that are totally carfree and devoted > to > > enjoyment of the > > place, not trying to get somewhere else as fast as > > possible. The value > > of that is something immediately appreciable, > > regardless of our > > economic and educational backgrounds (although > that > > particular place is > > upscale). So I think part of our challenge is to > > highlight such examples > > and work on replicating them throughout the world > in > > different, locally > > unique forms for the enjoyment and benefit of > > everyone. > > > > Also, I agree that in some parts of the world it > may > > be valuable for > > Towards Carfree Cities to focus mainly on > transport. > > However, in Europe > > and North America there are other, larger > > conferences that cover this > > theme. This would be much more of an issue in > > Portland than in San Luis > > Potosi, given the Pro Walk / Pro Bike conference > > coming to nearby > > Seattle. So we'd have to distinguish our > conference > > from theirs, both > > in theme and methodology. > > > > Given that the conference series is called Towards > > Carfree Cities, I > > think a good place to start is to learn from the > > world's existing > > carfree cities. The ones I've visited seem to work > > well precisely > > because of their emphasis on proximity first and > > mobility second.* I > > don't want to set up the two ideas as being in > > opposition to each > > other, but I do think the former types of > strategies > > should get > > increased emphasis in the future. > > > > Others? Shy list members can comment too! > > > > Randy > > > > * In the still-carfree medina of Fes, Morocco, > > traditionally each > > neighbourhood (microscopic by today's standards) > was > > self-sufficient in > > terms of at least a dozen facilities: school, > > mosque, bread oven, mill, > > hammam, public toilets, fountain, etc. This to me > is > > the perfect > > example of proximity - create ways in the "design" > > process for people > > to fulfill their wants and needs as locally as > > possible, avoiding the > > need for mobility. Of course people still want and > > need to move as > > well, so it becomes a question of to what extent > we > > should accommodate > > movement, and at the expense of what. The two > > concepts must be applied > > together. It may sound theoretical, but it's > > something we do even when > > rearranging furniture in our bedrooms. Curiously > we > > consistenly get the > > compromise about right with our indoor > environment, > > but almost never in > > our outdoor environment. > > > > > > Randall Ghent > > Membership & Conference Coordinator > > WORLD CARFREE NETWORK > > Kratka 26, 100 00 Prague 10 > > Czech Republic > > tel/fax: +(420) 274 810 849 > > skype: wcn-icc / randallghent > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > [carfree_network] list guidelines and unsubscribe > > information are found at > > http://www.worldcarfree.net/listservs/. 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