Re: Bulletin announcement and request for help
Justin Hyatt <[email protected]> Mon, 26 Sep 2011 18:40:06 +0200
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--bcaec5196ab1b7e65f04addacfd6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Joel and all, Thanks to all for your comments, both on and offlist. I agree with the suggestion that it might be wiser to go back to a simple text newsletter. That would indeed be easier and take up less time, and I might be forced to do that if there is no way to share the load. However, if we can get this t= o work smoothly and have more people to share in it, I think people prefer th= e visual enhancement. Also, we have discussed in the past the need to upgrade the website, which could potentially happen together with improving the whole set-up. I am curious what people think about partnering with other organizations, which I mentioned. The World Carfree Network certainly needs a boost at thi= s time. I am sure it got that in Mexico just recently, but elsewhere, little is happening. What would people see as potential candidates? A stable organization or institute which share our vision and would either like to sponsor or give various kinds of human or other in-kind support. Or we coul= d go the grants route, but we need people dedicated to pursuing all relevant funding. Any thoughts...? Justin ps: so far i have received a fair bit of well-wishing from otherwise fully-engaged people (which I appreciate nonetheless) and one offer for a limited amount of editing help. still no tech solution person. thanks, keep it coming! On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 2:58 PM, J.H. Crawford <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi Justin, (and others) > > First, thank you Justin for your efforts on the bulletin. > I have no doubt that it's a lot of work, and I also think > it's useful. > > May I suggest a reconsideration of the decision to do a > "rich" newsletter? I know from doing Carfree Times that > rich costs lots more time than plain-text. > > However, as far as the bulletin is concerned, is there a > real need for a rich version? I was always entirely > satisfied to read the plain-text version. If the rich > version is too much work, why not just give it up? > > I regret that my commitment to Carfree Times does not > leave me time to help with the bulletin. > > Best, > > Joel > > > At 2011-09-22 04:25, Justin Hyatt wrote: > >Dear Carfree friends and readers of the bulletin! > >(cc: to the translators) > > > >I wanted to share a few words with all of you about the process of makin= g > the bulletin and a call for help. After having edited the bulletin when I > worked in Prague for WCN a few years ago, I stopped when I left, but then > picked it up again last fall on a voluntary basis. This spring we include= d > an upgrade with rich formatting and html. While the new format has been > generally appreciated, it created several technical issues and it has als= o > required a lot more attention on our side, and it has made it more diffic= ult > for the translators themselves to send the various language editions due = to > ftp, updating the website, etc. > > > >So we have come to the point where I would like to continue working on t= he > bulletin, but would greatly appreciate more help with it. It has become > almost too much to cope with, at least on a voluntary basis. I think that > the whole service can develop even further and become an ever greater too= l > of the World Carfree movement, including even newer languages and smoothe= r > web experience. But we need to work in that direction. > > > >Thus, if you are reading this and interested in helping, here is where y= ou > could jump in: > > > >- News editing: sharing in the process of creating the English language > version. > >- Tech support, web development: helping to improve the way the bulletin > can be translated, uploaded, formatted, sent, etc. > >- Bulletin strategy: considering general ways to develop the bulletin, > building up a future strategy, working with other media > > > >If you would like to start a new translation, I'd be happy to hear from > you, but we should wait with that until we have solved other issues first= . > > > >Partnering: One idea for consideration is to couple the production of th= e > bulletin with another organisation with similar outlook. This would have = to > be considered carefully, but partnering could bring in benefits, such as > greater exposure in another network, availability of staff time, possibly > financial support. Send any ideas for this. > > > >In a nutshell, if you have time, ideas, programming skills, web savvy, o= r > would just like to be a part of the discussion for development of the Wor= ld > Carfree Monthly News service, please get in touch with me! > > > >The next issue to come out will be October. > > > >Thanks a lot, > >Justin > > > >Ps: I would like to take this moment to publicly thank the translators f= or > all their great work and help over the past year! Thanks a lot all of you= ! > > > >-- > >You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >Groups "World Carfree Network" group. > >To post to this group, send email to carfree_network-/[email protected] > >Replies are sent to the author of the message. > >To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >carfree_network-unsubscribe-/[email protected] > >For more options, visit this group at > ><http://groups.google.com/group/carfree_network?hl=3Den?hl=3Den> > http://groups.google.com/group/carfree_network?hl=3Den?hl=3Den > > > > ----- ### ----- > J.H. Crawford . Carfree Cities > [email protected] . http://www.carfree.com > > --=20 Justin Hyatt Z=F6ld Fiatalok | Hungarian Young Greens (NGO) Kar=E1csony S=E1ndor u.22 | 1086 Budapest | Hungary tel: (+36) 1 266 6978 e-mail: [email protected] www.zofi.hu --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "World Carfree Network" group. To post to this group, send email to carfree_network-/[email protected] Replies are sent to the author of the message. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to carfree_network-unsubscribe-/[email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/carfree_network?hl=3Den?hl=3Den --bcaec5196ab1b7e65f04addacfd6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Joel and all,<div><br></div><div>Thanks to all for your comments, both o= n and offlist. I agree with the suggestion that it might be wiser to go bac= k to a simple text newsletter. That would indeed be easier and take up less= time, and I might be forced to do that if there is no way to share the loa= d. However, if we can get this to work smoothly and have more people to sha= re in it, I think people prefer the visual enhancement. Also, we have discu= ssed in the past the need to upgrade the website, which could potentially h= appen together with improving the whole set-up.</div> <div><br></div><div>I am curious what people think about partnering with ot= her organizations, which I mentioned. The World Carfree Network certainly n= eeds a boost at this time. I am sure it got that in Mexico just recently, b= ut elsewhere, little is happening. What would people see as potential candi= dates? =A0A stable organization or institute which share our vision and wou= ld either like to sponsor or give various kinds of human or other in-kind s= upport. Or we could go the grants route, but we need people dedicated to pu= rsuing all relevant funding. Any thoughts...?=A0</div> <div><br></div><div>Justin</div><div><br></div><div>ps: so far i have recei= ved a fair bit of well-wishing from otherwise fully-engaged people (which I= appreciate nonetheless) and one offer for a limited amount of editing help= . still no tech solution person. thanks, keep it coming!<br> <br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 2:58 PM, J.H. Crawfo= rd <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_= blank">[email protected]</a>></span> wrote:<br> <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p= x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><br> Hi Justin, (and others)<br> <br> First, thank you Justin for your efforts on the bulletin.<br> I have no doubt that it's a lot of work, and I also think<br> it's useful.<br> <br> May I suggest a reconsideration of the decision to do a<br> "rich" newsletter? I know from doing Carfree Times that<br> rich costs lots more time than plain-text.<br> <br> However, as far as the bulletin is concerned, is there a<br> real need for a rich version? I was always entirely<br> satisfied to read the plain-text version. If the rich<br> version is too much work, why not just give it up?<br> <br> I regret that my commitment to Carfree Times does not<br> leave me time to help with the bulletin.<br> <br> Best,<br> <br> Joel<br> <div><div></div><div><br> <br> At 2011-09-22 04:25, Justin Hyatt wrote:<br> >Dear Carfree friends and readers of the bulletin!<br> >(cc: to the translators)<br> ><br> >I wanted to share a few words with all of you about the process of maki= ng the bulletin and a call for help. After having edited the bulletin when = I worked in Prague for WCN a few years ago, I stopped when I left, but then= picked it up again last fall on a voluntary basis. This spring we included= an upgrade with rich formatting and html. While the new format has been ge= nerally appreciated, it created several technical issues and it has also re= quired a lot more attention on our side, and it has made it more difficult = for the translators themselves to send the various language editions due to= ftp, updating the website, etc.<br> ><br> >So we have come to the point where I would like to continue working on = the bulletin, but would greatly appreciate more help with it. It has become= almost too much to cope with, at least on a voluntary basis. I think that = the whole service can develop even further and become an ever greater tool = of the World Carfree movement, including even newer languages and smoother = web experience. But we need to work in that direction.<br> ><br> >Thus, if you are reading this and interested in helping, here is where = you could jump in:<br> ><br> >- News editing: sharing in the process of creating the English language= version.<br> >- Tech support, web development: helping to improve the way the bulleti= n can be translated, uploaded, formatted, sent, etc.<br> >- Bulletin strategy: considering general ways to develop the bulletin, = building up a future strategy, working with other media<br> ><br> >If you would like to start a new translation, I'd be happy to hear = from you, but we should wait with that until we have solved other issues fi= rst.<br> ><br> >Partnering: One idea for consideration is to couple the production of t= he bulletin with another organisation with similar outlook. This would have= to be considered carefully, but partnering could bring in benefits, such a= s greater exposure in another network, availability of staff time, possibly= financial support. Send any ideas for this.<br> ><br> >In a nutshell, if you have time, ideas, programming skills, web savvy, = or would just like to be a part of the discussion for development of the Wo= rld Carfree Monthly News service, please get in touch with me!<br> ><br> >The next issue to come out will be October.<br> ><br> >Thanks a lot,<br> >Justin<br> ><br> >Ps: I would like to take this moment to publicly thank the translators = for all their great work and help over the past year! Thanks a lot all of y= ou!<br> ><br> </div></div>>--<br> >You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google<br> >Groups "World Carfree Network" group.<br> >To post to this group, send email to <a href=3D"mailto:carfree_network@= googlegroups.com" target=3D"_blank">carfree_network-/[email protected]</a><br= > >Replies are sent to the author of the message.<br> >To unsubscribe from this group, send email to<br> ><a href=3D"mailto:carfree_network-unsubscribe-/[email protected]" target= =3D"_blank">carfree_network-unsubscribe-/[email protected]</a><br> >For more options, visit this group at<br> ><<a href=3D"http://groups.google.com/group/carfree_network?hl=3Den?h= l=3Den" target=3D"_blank">http://groups.google.com/group/carfree_network?hl= =3Den?hl=3Den</a>><a href=3D"http://groups.google.com/group/carfree_netw= ork?hl=3Den?hl=3Den" target=3D"_blank">http://groups.google.com/group/carfr= ee_network?hl=3Den?hl=3Den</a><br> <br> <br> <br> ----- =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 ### =A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0-----<br> <font color=3D"#888888">J.H. 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