Re: How to link carism and environmentalism

Geoff Beacon <[email protected]> Wed, 17 Oct 2012 15:31:50 +0100
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That's a hard one Robert.

You could get them to measure their carbon footprints.
http://www.greenrationbook.org.uk

To turn the world from disaster we need a very large Carbon Tax.
[1]http://www.brusselsblog.co.uk/carbon-tax-in-the-mainstream/

and a new way of living
[2]http://www.brusselsblog.co.uk/making-planning-work-differently/

In York, UK I have proposed this
[3]http://www.brusselsblog.co.uk/work-in-progress-a-plan-for-york/

and this
[4]http://www.yorkmix.com/home-page/can-your-children-afford-to-live-in
-york/

Best of luck

Geoff

P.S. When the car free came to York I didn't get much support for
anything to do with climate change.

Perhaps the penny will drop soon. See [5]http://bkuk.com/eu/

----- Original message -----
From: Robert Dierker <[6][email protected]>
To: [7]carfree_network-/[email protected]
Subject: [carfree_network] How to link carism and environmentalism
Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 12:41:49 -0700 (PDT)

Hello.
   I volunteer for several environmental groups in Vancouver Canada.
One thing they seem to have in common is a belief that the use of cars
is a necessary evil within their organizations.  I can send many
examples, if requested, but I'm sure you've all seen it.
   Canada and the US are stuck in a well orchestrated car culture - no
doubt about it - and the natural resources of Canada are now hijacked
by foreign corporate giants.  Their government lobby efforts and PR
machines are in full force here.
   My great concern, now, is that our new batch of young
environmentalists can't leave their cars behind.  This is not
particularly new, but seems to be more pronounced than it used to be.
Our environmental movements can't move forward with this kind of base
line.
   I have no particular influence within Vancouver's environmental
movement, however I want to affect this one component of change: I want
these groups to weigh the value of each member's opinion and motivation
with respect to their personal activities with cars.
   Before I go I would like to remind any reader that Canada gets
REALLY cold.  These groups have to define models that will work in an
individualistic, affluent society at -25c.
   How do I do this?  Please help.
Robert.
604-440-0860


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References

1. http://www.brusselsblog.co.uk/carbon-tax-in-the-mainstream/
2. http://www.brusselsblog.co.uk/making-planning-work-differently/
3. http://www.brusselsblog.co.uk/work-in-progress-a-plan-for-york/
4. http://www.yorkmix.com/home-page/can-your-children-afford-to-live-in-york/
5. http://bkuk.com/eu/
6. mailto:[email protected]
7. mailto:carfree_network-/[email protected]
8. http://groups.google.com/group/carfree_network?hl=en?hl=en
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		<div>
			That&#39;s a hard one Robert.</div>
		<div>
			&nbsp;</div>
		<div>
			You could get them to measure their carbon footprints. http://www.greenr=
ationbook.org.uk</div>
		<div>
			&nbsp;</div>
		<div>
			To turn the world from disaster we need a very large Carbon Tax. <a href=
=3D"http://www.brusselsblog.co.uk/carbon-tax-in-the-mainstream/">http://www=
.brusselsblog.co.uk/carbon-tax-in-the-mainstream/</a></div>
		<div>
			&nbsp;</div>
		<div>
			and a new way of living <a href=3D"http://www.brusselsblog.co.uk/making-=
planning-work-differently/">http://www.brusselsblog.co.uk/making-planning-w=
ork-differently/</a></div>
		<div>
			&nbsp;</div>
		<div>
			In York, UK I have proposed this <a href=3D"http://www.brusselsblog.co.u=
k/work-in-progress-a-plan-for-york/">http://www.brusselsblog.co.uk/work-in-=
progress-a-plan-for-york/</a></div>
		<div>
			&nbsp;</div>
		<div>
			and this <a href=3D"http://www.yorkmix.com/home-page/can-your-children-a=
fford-to-live-in-york/">http://www.yorkmix.com/home-page/can-your-children-=
afford-to-live-in-york/</a></div>
		<div>
			&nbsp;</div>
		<br />
		<div>
			Best of luck</div>
		<div>
			&nbsp;</div>
		<div>
			Geoff</div>
		<div>
			&nbsp;</div>
		<div>
			P.S. When the car free came to York I didn&#39;t get much support for an=
ything to do with climate change.<br />
			<div>
				&nbsp;</div>
		</div>
		<div>
			Perhaps the penny will drop soon. See <a href=3D"http://bkuk.com/eu/">ht=
tp://bkuk.com/eu/</a></div>
		<div>
			&nbsp;</div>
		<div>
			----- Original message -----</div>
		<div>
			From: Robert Dierker &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">bobnowi=
[email protected]</a>&gt;</div>
		<div>
			To: <a href=3D"mailto:carfree_network-/[email protected]">carfree_network@=
googlegroups.com</a></div>
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			Subject: [carfree_network] How to link carism and environmentalism</div>
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			Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 12:41:49 -0700 (PDT)</div>
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			&nbsp;</div>
		<span style=3D"font-size: large; ">Hello.<br />
		<br />
		&nbsp;&nbsp; I volunteer for several environmental groups<span style=3D"f=
ont-size: large; "> in Vancouver Canada.&nbsp; On<span style=3D"font-size: =
large; ">e thing they seem to have in common is a belief that the use of ca=
rs is a necessary evil within their organizations.<span style=3D"font-size:=
 large; ">&nbsp; <span style=3D"font-size: large; ">I can send many example=
s, if requested, but I&#39;m sure you&#39;ve all seen it.</span></span>&nbs=
p;<br />
		<br />
		<span style=3D"font-size: large; ">&nbsp;&nbsp; </span>Canada and the US =
are stuck in a well <span style=3D"font-size: large; ">orchestrated</span> =
car culture - no doubt about it<span style=3D"font-size: large; "> - and th=
e natural resources of Canada <span style=3D"font-size: large; ">are</span>=
 no<span style=3D"font-size: large; ">w hijacked by foreign corporate giant=
s.&nbsp; The<span style=3D"font-size: large; ">ir government lobby efforts =
and PR machines are in full force here.</span><br />
		<br />
		&nbsp;&nbsp; M</span>y great concern, now, is that <span style=3D"font-si=
ze: large; ">our new batch of young environmentalists can&#39;t leave their=
 car<span style=3D"font-size: large; ">s behind.&nbsp; This is not particul=
arly new, but <span style=3D"font-size: large; ">seems to be</span> more pr=
onounced<span style=3D"font-size: large; "> than it used to be.</span>&nbsp=
; Our <span style=3D"font-size: large; ">environmental</span> movements can=
&#39;t move forward with this kind of base line.<br />
		<br />
		<span style=3D"font-size: large; ">&nbsp;&nbsp; I have no particular infl=
uence within Vancouver&#39;s environmental movement<span style=3D"font-size=
: large; ">, however I want to <span style=3D"font-size: large; ">affect th=
is one component of change: I want these groups to <span style=3D"font-size=
: large; ">weigh</span> the value of <span style=3D"font-size: large; ">eac=
h</span> member&#39;s opinion </span></span></span>and motivation with resp=
ect to their personal activities with cars.<br />
		<br />
		<span style=3D"font-size: large; ">&nbsp;&nbsp; Before I go I would like =
to remind any reader that Canada gets REALLY cold.&nbsp; These groups have =
to define models that will work in an individualistic, affluent society at =
-25c.</span><br />
		<br />
		<span style=3D"font-size: large; ">&nbsp;&nbsp; <span style=3D"font-size:=
 large; ">How do I do this?&nbsp; Please help.<br />
		<br />
		<span style=3D"font-size: large; ">Robert.<br />
		<span style=3D"font-size: large; ">604-440-0860</span></span></span></spa=
n></span></span></span></span></span></span><br />
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