Re: How to link carism and environmentalism
Robert Dierker <[email protected]> Sat, 20 Oct 2012 11:29:09 -0700
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--14dae9341117d2707004cc81cb26 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I think I need an application to parse good articles like this. I'd like to be able to search for relevant information to link to for this cheat-sheet. I think it has to go even further; it should allow me to select and highlight a relevant section. Does anyone know of such an application? On Oct 20, 2012 2:23 AM, "Geoff Beacon" <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Bob > > I'm not particularly keen on big reports - although if the authors have > enough status they can be effective. > > Sadly, I haven't too much status but I am getting some attention from > local and national planners now. > > What I'm arguing for in York is developments that will have the same look > and feel as the Cherry Grove, Fire Island > as shown in Joel Crawford's CarFree Times - > http://carfree.com/cft/i067.html > > I'll help with the science and environmental aspects when you ask. > > Geoff > > ----- Original message ----- > From: Robert Dierker <[email protected]> > To: carfree_network-/[email protected] > Cc: Gabrielle Hermann <gabbyherm-/[email protected]>, [email protected] > Subject: Re: [carfree_network] How to link carism and environmentalism > Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 17:19:52 -0700 (PDT) > > Hi Geoff. > > Thanks for the posting. I disagree, though. I think we have an > information overload. > > I think we have a propensity to study a problem and create a huge > report and then say - well, nothing. These reports are wonderful and > they''re needed to separate fact and fancy, but a series of reports does > not a movement make. > > Have you ever watched a documentary on, say, food processing or filmed > plastic? At the end I say to myself: "great! look at all that > information. Now why didn't they just go one step further and say: refuse > to take a plastic bag - don't buy garbage bags - deal with your garbage > this way?" They never do. They think the information itself is all we > need. I'm sure there are ways to say "do this" without great liability. All > we get is information, not direction. - except in the form of advertising... > > > > On Wednesday, October 17, 2012 12:08:12 PM UTC-7, Geoff Beacon wrote: > > Gabrielle, > > That's interesting. > > We also need some economic analysis to identify the benefits and > possibilities for car free living. > I've tried it here: http://www.brusselsblog.co.uk/** > a-parable-of-four-villages/<http://www.brusselsblog.co.uk/a-parable-of-four-villages/> > I'm not sure how well it worked but I think it's in the right direction. > > and Robert > > You may find some amusement in this: http://www.beacon-dodsworth.** > co.uk/blog/general-news/a-**holiday-pastime-the-hypocrisy-**index/<http://www.beacon-dodsworth.co.uk/blog/general-news/a-holiday-pastime-the-hypocrisy-index/> > > Geoff > > ----- Original message ----- > From: Gabrielle Hermann <*FastMail.FM WARNING: URL text contains a > possible JavaScript attack on your machine. URL disabled. Original URL=' > javascript:'. For more information on phishing click here<http://docs/phishing.html> > .*> > To: *FastMail.FM WARNING: URL text contains a possible JavaScript attack > on your machine. URL disabled. Original URL='javascript:'. For more > information on phishing click here <http://docs/phishing.html>.* > Cc: *FastMail.FM WARNING: URL text contains a possible JavaScript attack > on your machine. URL disabled. Original URL='javascript:'. For more > information on phishing click here <http://docs/phishing.html>.* > Subject: Re: [carfree_network] How to link carism and environmentalism > Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2012 10:55:48 -0400 > > Oh man, I feel for you! I'm an American/German living in Germany for > precisely that reason. I just wrote a scientific article on car-free > households (hopefully to be published early next year, if accepted). One of > the great paradoxes is that being an environmentalist is in some cases > negatively associated with being car-free. There are a bunch of > psychologists in Germany trying to figure out this irony. One of the > theoretical constructs that has been used to explain this is called the > Theory of Planned Behavior. For instance, the likelihood that an > individual will develop an intention to travel by bicycle increases if that > person holds a positive attitude towards bicycles *and* believes that > bicycling conditions are safe and cycling is a fast and efficient > transport-mode (not to mention a belief in the ability to ride a bicycle). > Once the intention to bicycle is sufficiently high, actual bicycling > behavior will result. The PhD by Steve Melia (found online) explains this > theory pretty well. > > Here are some conclusions I reached in my article, which was a literature > review of German- and Anglophone research on car-free households: > > - majority of people are car-free to save money. > - After becoming car-free, environmental awareness about negative > environmental affects can increase because they no longer have to fight the > cognitive dissonance caused by their car driving habits. They're free-er to > face it once their car is gone. > - To convince people to give up their car, better to focus on health and > economic benefits. Young environmentalists might be more attracted to the > bicycle because it offers flexibility, speed, and keeps them in shape. I > realized in Canada that teh cold makes this more difficult. > - New technologies (car sharing, smart phones) can make car-free living > more attractive and cool. > > Hope this helps! And good luck :) > > Gabrielle > > On Oct 12, 2012, at 3:41 PM, Robert Dierker wrote: > > Hello. > > I volunteer for several environmental groups in Vancouver Canada. One > thing they seem to have in common is a belief that the use of cars is a > necessary evil within their organizations. I can send many examples, if > requested, but I'm sure you've all seen it. > > Canada and the US are stuck in a well orchestrated car culture - no > doubt about it - and the natural resources of Canada are now hijacked by > foreign corporate giants. Their government lobby efforts and PR machines > are in full force here. > > My great concern, now, is that our new batch of young > environmentalists can't leave their cars behind. This is not > particularly new, but seems to be more pronounced than it used to be. > Our environmental movements can't move forward with this kind of base > line. > > I have no particular influence within Vancouver's environmental movement, > however I want to affect this one component of change: I want these > groups to weigh the value of each member's opinion and motivation with > respect to their personal activities with cars. > > Before I go I would like to remind any reader that Canada gets REALLY > cold. These groups have to define models that will work in an > individualistic, affluent society at -25c. > > How do I do this? Please help. > > Robert. > 604-440-0860 > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "World Carfree Network" group. > To post to this group, send email to *FastMail.FM WARNING: URL text > contains a possible JavaScript attack on your machine. URL disabled. > Original URL='javascript:'. 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For more > information on phishing click here <http://docs/phishing.html>.* > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "World Carfree Network" group. > To post to this group, send email to carfree_network-/[email protected] > Replies are sent to the author of the message. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > carfree_network-unsubscribe-/[email protected] > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/carfree_network?hl=en?hl=en > > -- > Geoff Beacon > [email protected] > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "World Carfree Network" group. To post to this group, send email to carfree_network-/[email protected] Replies are sent to the author of the message. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to carfree_network-unsubscribe-/[email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/carfree_network?hl=en?hl=en --14dae9341117d2707004cc81cb26 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <p>I think I need an application to parse good articles like this.=A0 I'= ;d like to be able to search for relevant information to link to for this c= heat-sheet.=A0 I think it has to go even further; it should allow me to sel= ect and highlight a relevant section.</p> <p>Does anyone know of such an application?</p> <div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Oct 20, 2012 2:23 AM, "Geoff Beacon"= ; <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>> = wrote:<br type=3D"attribution"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"m= argin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> <div><div style=3D"font-family:Arial;font-size:medium" dir=3D"ltr"><div> <div> <div> Hi Bob</div> <div> =A0</div> <div> I'm not particularly keen on big reports - although if the authors h= ave enough status they can be effective.</div> <div> =A0</div> <div> Sadly, I haven't too much status but I am getting some attention fro= m local and national planners now.</div> <div> =A0</div> <div> What I'm arguing for in York is developments that will have the same= look and feel as the<span style=3D"font-size:large"> <span style=3D"font-s= ize:medium"><font face=3D"Arial">Cherry Grove, Fire Island</font></span></s= pan></div> <div> <span style=3D"font-size:medium"><font face=3D"Arial">as shown in Joel <= /font></span>Crawford<span style=3D"font-size:medium"><font face=3D"Arial">= 's </font></span>CarFree Times - <a href=3D"http://carfree.com/cft/i067= .html" target=3D"_blank">http://carfree.com/cft/i067.html</a></div> <div> =A0</div> <div> I'll help with the science and environmental aspects when you ask.</= div> <div> =A0</div> <div> Geoff</div> <div> =A0</div> <div> ----- Original message -----</div> <div> From: Robert Dierker <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target= =3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>></div> <div> To: <a href=3D"mailto:carfree_network-/[email protected]" target=3D"_blank= ">carfree_network-/[email protected]</a></div> <div> Cc: Gabrielle Hermann <<a href=3D"mailto:gabbyherm-/[email protected]" target= =3D"_blank">gabbyherm-/[email protected]</a>>, <a href=3D"mailto:bobnowires@gmail= .com" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a></div> <div> Subject: Re: [carfree_network] How to link carism and environmentalism</= div> <div> Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 17:19:52 -0700 (PDT)</div> <div> =A0</div> <span style=3D"font-size:large">Hi Geoff.<br> <br> <span style=3D"font-size:large">=A0=A0 Thanks for the <span style=3D"font= -size:large">posting.=A0 I disagree, though.=A0 I think we have an informat= ion overload.<br> <br> <span style=3D"font-size:large">=A0=A0 I think we have a propensity to st= udy a problem and create </span>a huge report and then sa<span style=3D"fon= t-size:large">y - well, nothing.=A0 These reports are wonderful and they= 9;'re needed to separate fact and fancy, but <span style=3D"font-size:l= arge">a series of reports does not a movement make.</span><br> <br> <span style=3D"font-size:large">=A0 Have you ever watched a documentary o= n<span style=3D"font-size:large">, say, <span style=3D"font-size:large">foo= d processing or filmed plastic?</span></span></span>=A0 At the end I say to= myself: "great! look at all that information.=A0 Now why didn't t= hey just go one step further and say: <span style=3D"font-size:large">refus= e to take a plastic bag - don't buy garbage bags - deal with your garba= ge this way?"=A0 They never do.=A0 They think the information itself i= s all we need.</span>=A0 I'm sure there are ways to say <span style=3D"= font-size:large">"</span>do this" without great liability.=A0 <sp= an style=3D"font-size:large">All we get is information, not direction. - ex= cept in the form of advertising...</span></span></span></span></span><br> <br> <br> <br> On Wednesday, October 17, 2012 12:08:12 PM UTC-7, Geoff Beacon wrote: <blockquote style=3D"margin:0;margin-left:0.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc soli= d;padding-left:1ex"> <div> <div dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-family:Arial;font-size:medium"> <div> <div> <div> Gabrielle,</div> <div> =A0</div> <div> That's interesting.</div> <div> =A0</div> <div> We also need some economic analysis to identify the benefits and po= ssibilities for car free living.</div> <div> I've tried it here: <a href=3D"http://www.brusselsblog.co.uk/a-= parable-of-four-villages/" target=3D"_blank">http://www.brusselsblog.co.uk/= <u></u>a-parable-of-four-villages/</a></div> <div> I'm not sure how well it worked but I think it's in the rig= ht direction.</div> <div> =A0</div> <div> and Robert</div> <div> =A0</div> <div> You may find some amusement in this:<a href=3D"http://www.beacon-do= dsworth.co.uk/blog/general-news/a-holiday-pastime-the-hypocrisy-index/" tar= get=3D"_blank"> http://www.beacon-dodsworth.<u></u>co.uk/blog/general-news/= a-<u></u>holiday-pastime-the-hypocrisy-<u></u>index/</a></div> <div> =A0</div> <div> Geoff</div> <div> =A0</div> <div> ----- Original message -----</div> <div> From: Gabrielle Hermann <<b>FastMail.FM WARNING: URL text contai= ns a possible JavaScript attack on your machine. URL disabled. Original URL= =3D'<u>javascript:</u>'. For more information on phishing click <a = href=3D"http://docs/phishing.html" target=3D"_blank">here</a>.</b>></div= > <div> To: <b>FastMail.FM WARNING: URL text contains a possible JavaScript= attack on your machine. URL disabled. Original URL=3D'<u>javascript:</= u>'. For more information on phishing click <a href=3D"http://docs/phis= hing.html" target=3D"_blank">here</a>.</b></div> <div> Cc: <b>FastMail.FM WARNING: URL text contains a possible JavaScript= attack on your machine. URL disabled. Original URL=3D'<u>javascript:</= u>'. For more information on phishing click <a href=3D"http://docs/phis= hing.html" target=3D"_blank">here</a>.</b></div> <div> Subject: Re: [carfree_network] How to link carism and environmental= ism</div> <div> Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2012 10:55:48 -0400</div> <div> =A0</div> <div dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"word-wrap:break-word"> Oh man, I feel for you! I'm an American/German living in German= y for precisely that reason. I just wrote a scientific article on car-free = households (hopefully to be published early next year, if accepted). One of= the great paradoxes is that being an environmentalist is in some cases neg= atively associated with being car-free. There are a bunch of psychologists = in Germany trying to figure out this irony. One of the theoretical construc= ts that has been used to explain this is called the Theory of Planned Behav= ior.=A0 <span style=3D"line-height:150%"><span>For instance, the likelihood= that an individual will develop an intention to travel by bicycle increase= s if that person holds a positive attitude towards bicycles <u>and</u> beli= eves that bicycling conditions are safe and cycling is a fast and efficient= transport-mode (not to mention a belief in the ability to ride a bicycle).= Once the intention to bicycle is sufficiently high, actual bicycling behav= ior will result.</span></span>=A0The PhD by Steve Melia (found online) expl= ains this theory pretty well.=A0 <div> =A0</div> <div> Here are some conclusions I reached in my article, which was a lit= erature review of German- and Anglophone research on car-free households:= =A0 <div> =A0</div> <div> - majority of people are car-free to save money.=A0</div> <div> - After becoming car-free, environmental awareness about negative= environmental affects can increase because they no longer have to fight th= e cognitive dissonance caused by their car driving habits. They're free= -er to face it once their car is gone.=A0</div> <div> - To convince people to give up their car, better to focus on hea= lth and economic benefits. Young environmentalists might be more attracted = to the bicycle because it offers flexibility, speed, and keeps them in shap= e. I realized in Canada that teh cold makes this more difficult.=A0</div> <div> - New technologies (car sharing, smart phones) can make car-free = living more attractive and cool.=A0</div> <div> =A0</div> <div> Hope this helps! And good luck :)=A0</div> <div> =A0</div> <div> Gabrielle</div> <div> <div> <br> <div> <div> On Oct 12, 2012, at 3:41 PM, Robert Dierker wrote:</div> <br> <blockquote type=3D"cite"> <span style=3D"font-size:large">Hello.<br> <br> =A0=A0 I volunteer for several environmental groups<span style= =3D"font-size:large"> in Vancouver Canada.=A0 On<span style=3D"font-size:la= rge">e thing they seem to have in common is a belief that the use of cars i= s a necessary evil within their organizations.<span style=3D"font-size:larg= e">=A0 <span style=3D"font-size:large">I can send many examples, if request= ed, but I'm sure you've all seen it.</span></span>=A0<br> <br> <span style=3D"font-size:large">=A0=A0 </span>Canada and the U= S are stuck in a well <span style=3D"font-size:large">orchestrated</span> c= ar culture - no doubt about it<span style=3D"font-size:large"> - and the na= tural resources of Canada <span style=3D"font-size:large">are</span> no<spa= n style=3D"font-size:large">w hijacked by foreign corporate giants.=A0 The<= span style=3D"font-size:large">ir government lobby efforts and PR machines = are in full force here.</span><br> <br> =A0=A0 M</span>y great concern, now, is that <span style=3D"fo= nt-size:large">our new batch of young environmentalists can't leave the= ir car<span style=3D"font-size:large">s behind.=A0 This is not particularly= new, but <span style=3D"font-size:large">seems to be</span> more pronounce= d<span style=3D"font-size:large"> than it used to be.</span>=A0 Our <span s= tyle=3D"font-size:large">environmental</span> movements can't move forw= ard with this kind of base line.<br> <br> <span style=3D"font-size:large">=A0=A0 I have no particular in= fluence within Vancouver's environmental movement<span style=3D"font-si= ze:large">, however I want to <span style=3D"font-size:large">affect this o= ne component of change: I want these groups to <span style=3D"font-size:lar= ge">weigh</span> the value of <span style=3D"font-size:large">each</span> m= ember's opinion </span></span></span>and motivation with respect to the= ir personal activities with cars.<br> <br> <span style=3D"font-size:large">=A0=A0 Before I go I would lik= e to remind any reader that Canada gets REALLY cold.=A0 These groups have t= o define models that will work in an individualistic, affluent society at -= 25c.</span><br> <br> <span style=3D"font-size:large">=A0=A0 <span style=3D"font-siz= e:large">How do I do this?=A0 Please help.<br> <br> <span style=3D"font-size:large">Robert.<br> <span style=3D"font-size:large"><a href=3D"tel:604-440-0860" v= alue=3D"+16044400860" target=3D"_blank">604-440-0860</a></span></span></spa= n></span></span></span></span></span></span></span><br> <div> =A0</div> --<br> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Go= ogle<br> Groups "World Carfree Network" group.<br> To post to this group, send email to <b>FastMail.FM WARNING: U= RL text contains a possible JavaScript attack on your machine. 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