Re: Bulletin (+CB) to continue or not to continue?
Jarren Butterworth <[email protected]> Wed, 20 Feb 2013 11:22:46 -0800
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--20cf303ddb201afa4a04d62ce274 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I'm fairly shocked email lists and "bulletins" even still exist. Just make a simple modern forum for all this discussion and use one that's smart-phone/tablet friendly too. On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 1:58 AM, Andrea Herrmann <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi, > > yes, I like this idea. Making the bulletin look nice and printing > causes probably most of the time need and cost. So, it is better > to have a lightweigt version of the bulletin than not having > any at all. > > Keeping carfree activists worldwide connected and informed is important. > And in times of economic crisis, it is even more important to > celebrate carfree life. Because cars are unnecessary luxury > that destroy enonomics means that could be invested better elsewhere. > And many people can not afford cars and longer. They need our advice. :-) > > Justin, I would be willing to spend a bit more time in the > newsletter. How can I help you? > > Andrea > > > > -------- Original-Nachricht -------- > > Datum: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 10:33:04 -0500 > > Von: "J.H. Crawford" <[email protected]> > > An: [email protected] > > CC: carfree_network <carfree_network-/[email protected]> > > Betreff: Re: [carfree_network] Bulletin (+CB) to continue or not to > continue? > > > > > Hi Justin and others, > > > > First of all, thanks, Justin, for keeping this in front of us. > > > > In general, I do see some resurgence of interest in carfree cities. > > (Looking back, WCN died along with the rest of the global economy. Maybe > the need > > for a shift to a green economy is driving some new interest in our > ideas.) > > Traffic on my web site is back up, although not to pre-crash levels. For > > the first time in years I've been asked to make a major presentation > > (Stockholm), and Montreal is considering a large carfree development on > the site > > of a former horse racing track. > > > > However, I don't think we can plan on a large increase in available time > > and energy. I would, therefore, suggest that if Justin is willing to do > it, > > he put out an e-mail bulletin (simple, unformatted, with in-line links) > > every two or three months. That gets us most of the benefit of something > more > > formal (and prettier!) at the minimum expenditure of effort. > > > > Yes, I know we like things to look nice and to be available in print, > too, > > but that's not a realistic goal at this time, I think. > > > > What do others think? > > > > By the way, I REALLY need help promoting my videos. It's all I can do to > > get them made; getting people to watch is beyond me. Latest ones are at: > > > > https://vimeo.com/jhcrawford/videos > > > > Hitting Like after you watch is really important to spreading them. > > > > Best, > > > > Joel > > > > > > >Dear Carbusting WCNers, WCN-loving Carbusters, and bulletin readers! > > > > > >As those of you following the bulletin - monthly carfree newsletter - > > should have read earlier, there was a decision made late last year to > combine > > the Bulletin with Carbusters, and have both work in a combo way, on > website > > and electronic distribution (with the possibility for local printing by > > interested orgs). Since then, an editors email group was started, to > oversee > > this project. Yet precious little else has happened. > > > > > >I have come to realize that even on the editors group there are not a > lot > > of people with lots of time on their hands, and I now see that more > people > > will be needed who are enthusiastic, can at least commit to a certain > (not > > huge, but useful) amount of time, and then work towards the goal. > However, > > under the current conditions, I can not foresee myself mostly > > single-handedly bringing this CB-Bulletin joining/transformation about. > Without > > additional help, i could at most agree to put out a simple bulletin, as > earlier, > > on a 2-3 monthly basis. > > > > > >In order to do the transformation, we'd need someone with programming > > skills (drupal or wordpress, CMS installation capacity), some graphic > design > > help, and editorial work help. > > > > > >But this might also be the time to pause and reflect - is keeping the > WCN > > news organs going, something that is desirable? (some have noticed it > > missing, and told me so) is it still something that can be of support to > the > > global carfree movement, even if the World Carfree Network itself is not > > particularly active these times? If it is desirable to keep, are there > people > > around who have the will and the energy to help make it happen? > > > > > >I'm happy to put in effort here - but it will be conditional on having a > > strategy that works. However if it is time to decide to put this on the > > backburner for now, and pursue other activities supportive of carfree > causes, > > i'm happy to hear what people think. if there is little comment and > mostly > > silence concerning this email, that is a kind of answer too. > > > > > >Thanks, > > >Justin > > > > > >-- > > >-- > > >You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > >Groups "World Carfree Network" group. > > >To post to this group, send email to carfree_network-/[email protected] > > >Replies are sent to the author of the message. > > >To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > >carfree_network-unsubscribe-/[email protected] > > >For more options, visit this group at > > ><http://groups.google.com/group/carfree_network?hl=en?hl=en> > http://groups.google.com/group/carfree_network?hl=en?hl=en > > >--- > > >You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > > "World Carfree Network" group. > > >To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an > > email to carfree_network+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/[email protected] > > >For more options, visit > > <https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out> > https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- ### ----- > > J.H. Crawford > > [email protected] > > http://www.carfree.com > > Twitter: http://twitter.com/carfreecities > > Vimeo: http://vimeo.com/jhcrawford/videos > > YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/user/CarfreeCities > > > > -- > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > Groups "World Carfree Network" group. > > To post to this group, send email to carfree_network-/[email protected] > > Replies are sent to the author of the message. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > carfree_network-unsubscribe-/[email protected] > > For more options, visit this group at > > http://groups.google.com/group/carfree_network?hl=en?hl=en > > --- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "World Carfree Network" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > > email to carfree_network+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/[email protected] > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > > > > -- > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "World Carfree Network" group. > To post to this group, send email to carfree_network-/[email protected] > Replies are sent to the author of the message. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > carfree_network-unsubscribe-/[email protected] > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/carfree_network?hl=en?hl=en > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "World Carfree Network" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to carfree_network+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/[email protected] > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "World Carfree Network" group. 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To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to carfree_network+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/[email protected] For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. --20cf303ddb201afa4a04d62ce274 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm fairly shocked email lists and "bulletins" even still exi= st.=A0 Just make a simple modern forum for all this discussion and use one = that's smart-phone/tablet friendly too.<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quot= e"> On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 1:58 AM, Andrea Herrmann <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a h= ref=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>></span>= wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;bor= der-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> Hi,<br> <br> yes, I like this idea. Making the bulletin look nice and printing<br> causes probably most of the time need and cost. So, it is better<br> to have a lightweigt version of the bulletin than not having<br> any at all.<br> <br> Keeping carfree activists worldwide connected and informed is important.<br= > And in times of economic crisis, it is even more important to<br> celebrate carfree life. Because cars are unnecessary luxury<br> that destroy enonomics means that could be invested better elsewhere.<br> And many people can not afford cars and longer. They need our advice. :-)<b= r> <br> Justin, I would be willing to spend a bit more time in the<br> newsletter. How can I help you?<br> <br> Andrea<br> <br> <br> <br> -------- Original-Nachricht --------<br> > Datum: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 10:33:04 -0500<br> > Von: "J.H. Crawford" <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]= om">[email protected]</a>><br> > An: <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a><br> > CC: carfree_network <<a href=3D"mailto:carfree_network@googlegroups= .com">carfree_network-/[email protected]</a>><br> > Betreff: Re: [carfree_network] Bulletin (+CB) to continue or not to = =A0continue?<br> <div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5"><br> ><br> > Hi Justin and others,<br> ><br> > First of all, thanks, Justin, for keeping this in front of us.<br> ><br> > In general, I do see some resurgence of interest in carfree cities.<br= > > (Looking back, WCN died along with the rest of the global economy. May= be the need<br> > for a shift to a green economy is driving some new interest in our ide= as.)<br> > Traffic on my web site is back up, although not to pre-crash levels. F= or<br> > the first time in years I've been asked to make a major presentati= on<br> > (Stockholm), and Montreal is considering a large carfree development o= n the site<br> > of a former horse racing track.<br> ><br> > However, I don't think we can plan on a large increase in availabl= e time<br> > and energy. I would, therefore, suggest that if Justin is willing to d= o it,<br> > he put out an e-mail bulletin (simple, unformatted, with in-line links= )<br> > every two or three months. That gets us most of the benefit of somethi= ng more<br> > formal (and prettier!) at the minimum expenditure of effort.<br> ><br> > Yes, I know we like things to look nice and to be available in print, = too,<br> > but that's not a realistic goal at this time, I think.<br> ><br> > What do others think?<br> ><br> > By the way, I REALLY need help promoting my videos. It's all I can= do to<br> > get them made; getting people to watch is beyond me. Latest ones are a= t:<br> ><br> > <a href=3D"https://vimeo.com/jhcrawford/videos" target=3D"_blank">http= s://vimeo.com/jhcrawford/videos</a><br> ><br> > Hitting Like after you watch is really important to spreading them.<br= > ><br> > Best,<br> ><br> > Joel<br> ><br> ><br> > >Dear Carbusting WCNers, WCN-loving Carbusters, and bulletin reader= s!<br> > ><br> > >As those of you following the bulletin - monthly carfree newslette= r -<br> > should have read earlier, there was a decision made late last year to = combine<br> > the Bulletin with Carbusters, and have both work in a combo way, on we= bsite<br> > and electronic distribution (with the possibility for local printing b= y<br> > interested orgs). Since then, an editors email group was started, to o= versee<br> > this project. Yet precious little else has happened.<br> > ><br> > >I have come to realize that even on the editors group there are no= t a lot<br> > of people with lots of time on their hands, and I now see that more pe= ople<br> > will be needed who are enthusiastic, can at least commit to a certain = (not<br> > huge, but useful) amount of time, and then work towards the goal. Howe= ver,<br> > under the current conditions, I can not foresee myself mostly<br> > single-handedly bringing this CB-Bulletin joining/transformation about= . Without<br> > additional help, i could at most agree to put out a simple bulletin, a= s earlier,<br> > on a 2-3 monthly basis.<br> > ><br> > >In order to do the transformation, we'd need someone with prog= ramming<br> > skills (drupal or wordpress, CMS installation capacity), some graphic = design<br> > help, and editorial work help.<br> > ><br> > >But this might also be the time to pause and reflect - is keeping = the WCN<br> > news organs going, something that is desirable? (some have noticed it<= br> > missing, and told me so) is it still something that can be of support = to the<br> > global carfree movement, even if the World Carfree Network itself is n= ot<br> > particularly active these times? If it is desirable to keep, are there= people<br> > around who have the will and the energy to help make it happen?<br> > ><br> > >I'm happy to put in effort here - but it will be conditional o= n having a<br> > strategy that works. However if it is time to decide to put this on th= e<br> > backburner for now, and pursue other activities supportive of carfree = causes,<br> > i'm happy to hear what people think. if there is little comment an= d mostly<br> > silence concerning this email, that is a kind of answer too.<br> > ><br> > >Thanks,<br> > >Justin<br> > ><br> > >--<br> > >--<br> > >You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google= <br> > >Groups "World Carfree Network" group.<br> > >To post to this group, send email to <a href=3D"mailto:carfree_net= work-/[email protected]">carfree_network-/[email protected]</a><br> > >Replies are sent to the author of the message.<br> > >To unsubscribe from this group, send email to<br> > ><a href=3D"mailto:carfree_network-unsubscribe-/[email protected]">ca= rfree_network-unsubscribe-/[email protected]</a><br> > >For more options, visit this group at<br> > ><<a href=3D"http://groups.google.com/group/carfree_network?hl= =3Den?hl=3Den" target=3D"_blank">http://groups.google.com/group/carfree_net= work?hl=3Den?hl=3Den</a>><a href=3D"http://groups.google.com/group/carfr= ee_network?hl=3Den?hl=3Den" target=3D"_blank">http://groups.google.com/grou= p/carfree_network?hl=3Den?hl=3Den</a><br> > >---<br> > >You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google= Groups<br> > "World Carfree Network" group.<br> > >To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, = send an<br> > email to <a href=3D"mailto:carfree_network%2Bunsubscribe@googlegroups.= com">carfree_network+unsubscribe-/[email protected]</a>.<br> > >For more options, visit<br> > <<a href=3D"https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out" target=3D"_bl= ank">https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out</a>><a href=3D"https://gro= ups.google.com/groups/opt_out" target=3D"_blank">https://groups.google.com/= groups/opt_out</a>.<br> > ><br> > ><br> ><br> ><br> ><br> > ----- =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 ### =A0 =A0 = =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0-----<br> > J.H. Crawford<br> > <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a><br> > <a href=3D"http://www.carfree.com" target=3D"_blank">http://www.carfre= e.com</a><br> > Twitter: <a href=3D"http://twitter.com/carfreecities" target=3D"_blank= ">http://twitter.com/carfreecities</a><br> > Vimeo: =A0 <a href=3D"http://vimeo.com/jhcrawford/videos" target=3D"_b= lank">http://vimeo.com/jhcrawford/videos</a><br> > YouTube: <a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/user/CarfreeCities" target= =3D"_blank">http://www.youtube.com/user/CarfreeCities</a><br> ><br> > --<br> > --<br> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google<br> > Groups "World Carfree Network" group.<br> > To post to this group, send email to <a href=3D"mailto:carfree_network= @googlegroups.com">carfree_network-/[email protected]</a><br> > Replies are sent to the author of the message.<br> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to<br> > <a href=3D"mailto:carfree_network-unsubscribe-/[email protected]">carfre= e_network-unsubscribe-/[email protected]</a><br> > For more options, visit this group at<br> > <a href=3D"http://groups.google.com/group/carfree_network?hl=3Den?hl= =3Den" target=3D"_blank">http://groups.google.com/group/carfree_network?hl= =3Den?hl=3Den</a><br> > ---<br> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Gro= ups<br> > "World Carfree Network" group.<br> > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send= an<br> > email to <a href=3D"mailto:carfree_network%2Bunsubscribe@googlegroups.= com">carfree_network+unsubscribe-/[email protected]</a>.<br> > For more options, visit <a href=3D"https://groups.google.com/groups/op= t_out" target=3D"_blank">https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out</a>.<br> ><br> ><br> <br> --<br> --<br> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google<br> Groups "World Carfree Network" group.<br> To post to this group, send email to <a href=3D"mailto:carfree_network@goog= legroups.com">carfree_network-/[email protected]</a><br> Replies are sent to the author of the message.<br> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to<br> <a href=3D"mailto:carfree_network-unsubscribe-/[email protected]">carfree_net= work-unsubscribe-/[email protected]</a><br> For more options, visit this group at<br> <a href=3D"http://groups.google.com/group/carfree_network?hl=3Den?hl=3Den" = target=3D"_blank">http://groups.google.com/group/carfree_network?hl=3Den?hl= =3Den</a><br> ---<br> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups &= quot;World Carfree Network" group.<br> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to <a href=3D"mailto:carfree_network%2Bunsubscribe-/[email protected]">c= arfree_network+unsubscribe-/[email protected]</a>.<br> For more options, visit <a href=3D"https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out= " target=3D"_blank">https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out</a>.<br> <br> <br> </div></div></blockquote></div><br> <p></p> -- <br /> -- <br /> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google<br /> Groups "World Carfree Network" group.<br /> To post to this group, send email to carfree_network-/[email protected]<br /> Replies are sent to the author of the message.<br /> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to<br /> carfree_network-unsubscribe-/[email protected]<br /> For more options, visit this group at<br /> <a href=3D"http://groups.google.com/group/carfree_network?hl=3Den?hl=3Den">= http://groups.google.com/group/carfree_network?hl=3Den?hl=3Den</a><br /> --- <br /> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups &= quot;World Carfree Network" group.<br /> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to carfree_network+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/[email protected]<br /> For more options, visit <a href=3D"https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out= ">https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out</a>.<br /> <br /> <br /> --20cf303ddb201afa4a04d62ce274--