Re: World Carfree Carbusters to continue or not to continue?
Justin Hyatt <[email protected]> Wed, 20 Feb 2013 21:49:37 +0100
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--bcaec5171ebfad2efe04d62e1851 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Ron, Thanks for the answer, and thanks for sending this to other lists. You can let me or the list know if you get any responses. Yes you are right, they would have to be list members to have their responses go automatically to this list, but you can easily forward them. If anyone wants to, they can also join either this list [carfree network] or the new bulletin-cb editorial list i described (or both) the one we are writing on now has somewhere around 1-2 thousand subscribers (if memory aids me well) and the new editorial list 6 subscribers. I perfectly agree with you that there is still (or again, or even more) a huge possibility in promoting the carfree concept, but the trick that remains is how to harness the energies and bring together those interested and willing people to put the best and most effective concerted effort forward. so any ideas/brainstorming on that topic is most welcome! Justin On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 2:15 AM, Ron Richings <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Justin**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > I hope that the bulletin continues, but unfortunately I can=92t offer any > assistance, at least for the next few months.**** > > ** ** > > If the Bulletin hibernates for a while, or even if it is re-invigorated, > then perhaps we could look at making the googlegroups listserv more > effective and with much broader distribution. I think that Carbusters > Magazine had an impact far beyond what might have been expected, given t= he > relatively small number of people actively involved.**** > > ** ** > > I didn=92t count the number of subscribers/participants on the Google gro= up, > but it isn=92t huge.**** > > In North America it seems like there is the potential for much more > participation. Just looking at Vancouver, BC, San Francisco/Bay Area, an= d > Portland, Oregon (which hosted the Carfree conference not so many years > ago) there are many people involved Carfree activities/lifestyle. If eve= n > a small portion of those folks participated we would have a much larger a= nd > more active group. Perhaps part of the question is just what this > group/listserv is conceived of as doing.**** > > ** ** > > I have copied this reply and your original to a bunch of people in variou= s > locations who might be interested, and perhaps might want to become > involved.**** > > ** ** > > Am I right in thinking that they would have to become a member of the > Google Group to reply/comment?**** > > ** ** > > They could do that at: > http://groups.google.com/group/carfree_network?hl=3Den?hl=3Den I assume= .**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > Ron Richings**** > > Vancouver, BC**** > > Canada**** > > ** ** > > *From:* carfree_network-/[email protected] [mailto: > carfree_network-/[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Justin Hyatt > *Sent:* Monday, February 18, 2013 12:57 PM > *To:* carfree_network > *Subject:* [carfree_network] Bulletin (+CB) to continue or not to > continue?**** > > ** ** > > Dear Carbusting WCNers, WCN-loving Carbusters, and bulletin readers! > > As those of you following the bulletin - monthly carfree newsletter - > should have read earlier, there was a decision made late last year to > combine the Bulletin with Carbusters, and have both work in a combo way, = on > website and electronic distribution (with the possibility for local > printing by interested orgs). Since then, an editors email group was > started, to oversee this project. Yet precious little else has happened. > > I have come to realize that even on the editors group there are not a lot > of people with lots of time on their hands, and I now see that more peopl= e > will be needed who are enthusiastic, can at least commit to a certain (no= t > huge, but useful) amount of time, and then work towards the goal. However= , > under the current conditions, I can not foresee myself mostly > single-handedly bringing this CB-Bulletin joining/transformation about. > Without additional help, i could at most agree to put out a simple > bulletin, as earlier, on a 2-3 monthly basis. > > In order to do the transformation, we'd need someone with programming > skills (drupal or wordpress, CMS installation capacity), some graphic > design help, and editorial work help. > > But this might also be the time to pause and reflect - is keeping the WCN > news organs going, something that is desirable? (some have noticed it > missing, and told me so) is it still something that can be of support to > the global carfree movement, even if the World Carfree Network itself is > not particularly active these times? If it is desirable to keep, are ther= e > people around who have the will and the energy to help make it happen? > > I'm happy to put in effort here - but it will be conditional on having a > strategy that works. However if it is time to decide to put this on the > backburner for now, and pursue other activities supportive of carfree > causes, i'm happy to hear what people think. if there is little comment a= nd > mostly silence concerning this email, that is a kind of answer too. > > Thanks, > Justin**** > > -- > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "World Carfree Network" group. > To post to this group, send email to carfree_network-/[email protected] > Replies are sent to the author of the message. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > carfree_network-unsubscribe-/[email protected] > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/carfree_network?hl=3Den?hl=3Den > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "World Carfree Network" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to carfree_network+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/[email protected] > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > **** > --=20 --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "World Carfree Network" group. To post to this group, send email to carfree_network-/[email protected] Replies are sent to the author of the message. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to carfree_network-unsubscribe-/[email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/carfree_network?hl=3Den?hl=3Den ---=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= World Carfree Network" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to carfree_network+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/[email protected] For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. --bcaec5171ebfad2efe04d62e1851 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Ron,<br><br>Thanks for the answer, and thanks for sending this to other = lists. You can let me or the list know if you get any responses. Yes you ar= e right, they would have to be list members to have their responses go auto= matically to this list, but you can easily forward them. If anyone wants to= , they can also join either this list [carfree network] or the new bulletin= -cb editorial list i described (or both) the one we are writing on now has = somewhere around 1-2 thousand subscribers (if memory aids me well) and the = new editorial list 6 subscribers.<br> <br>I perfectly agree with you that there is still (or again, or even more)= a huge possibility in promoting the carfree concept, but the trick that re= mains is how to harness the energies and bring together those interested an= d willing people to put the best and most effective concerted effort forwar= d. so any ideas/brainstorming on that topic is most welcome!<br> <br>Justin<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 2:15 A= M, Ron Richings <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]"= target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote = class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid= ;padding-left:1ex"> <div link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple" lang=3D"EN-US"><div><p class=3D"MsoNorm= al"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","s= ans-serif";color:#1f497d">Hi=A0 Justin<u></u><u></u></span></p><p clas= s=3D"MsoNormal"> <span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-= serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u>=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNorma= l"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sa= ns-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u>=A0<u></u></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca= libri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">I hope that the bulletin = continues, but unfortunately I can=92t offer any assistance, at least for t= he next few months.<u></u><u></u></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca= libri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u>=A0<u></u></span><= /p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"= ;Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">If the Bulletin hibern= ates for a while, or even if it is re-invigorated, then perhaps we could lo= ok at making the googlegroups listserv more effective and with much broader= distribution.=A0 I think that Carbusters Magazine had an impact far beyond= what =A0might have been expected, given the relatively small number of peo= ple actively involved.<u></u><u></u></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca= libri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u>=A0<u></u></span><= /p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"= ;Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">I didn=92t count the n= umber of subscribers/participants on the Google group, but it isn=92t huge.= <u></u><u></u></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca= libri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">In North America it seems= like there is the potential for much more participation.=A0 Just looking a= t Vancouver, BC, San Francisco/Bay Area, and Portland, Oregon (which hosted= the Carfree conference not so many years ago) there are many people involv= ed Carfree activities/lifestyle.=A0 If even a small portion of those folks = participated we would have a much larger and more active group.=A0 Perhaps = part of the question is just what this group/listserv is conceived of as do= ing.<u></u><u></u></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca= libri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u>=A0<u></u></span><= /p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"= ;Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">I have copied this rep= ly and your original to a bunch of people in various locations who might be= interested, and perhaps might want to become involved.<u></u><u></u></span= ></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca= libri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u>=A0<u></u></span><= /p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"= ;Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Am I right in thinking= that they would have to become a member of the Google Group to reply/comme= nt?<u></u><u></u></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca= libri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u>=A0<u></u></span><= /p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"= ;Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">They could do that at:= =A0 </span><a href=3D"http://groups.google.com/group/carfree_network?hl=3De= n?hl=3Den" target=3D"_blank">http://groups.google.com/group/carfree_network= ?hl=3Den?hl=3Den</a>=A0=A0 I assume.<u></u><u></u></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>= =A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Ron Richings<u></u><u></u></p><p class= =3D"MsoNormal">Vancouver, BC<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Canada= <span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-= serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u><u></u></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca= libri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u>=A0<u></u></span><= /p><div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0= in 0in 0in"> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"= ;Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-s= ize:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <a href= =3D"mailto:carfree_network-/[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">carfree_netw= ork-/[email protected]</a> [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:carfree_network@googlegr= oups.com" target=3D"_blank">carfree_network-/[email protected]</a>] <b>On Beh= alf Of </b>Justin Hyatt<br> <b>Sent:</b> Monday, February 18, 2013 12:57 PM<br><b>To:</b> carfree_netwo= rk<br><b>Subject:</b> [carfree_network] Bulletin (+CB) to continue or not t= o continue?<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=A0= <u></u></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Dear Carbusting WCNers, WCN-loving Carbusters, and b= ulletin readers!<br><br>As those of you following the bulletin - monthly ca= rfree newsletter - should have read earlier, there was a decision made late= last year to combine the Bulletin with Carbusters, and have both work in a= combo way, on website and electronic distribution (with the possibility fo= r local printing by interested orgs). Since then, an editors email group wa= s started, to oversee this project. Yet precious little else has happened.<= br> <br>I have come to realize that even on the editors group there are not a l= ot of people with lots of time on their hands, and I now see that more peop= le will be needed who are enthusiastic, can at least commit to a certain (n= ot huge, but useful) amount of time, and then work towards the goal. Howeve= r, under the current conditions, I can not foresee myself mostly single-han= dedly bringing this CB-Bulletin joining/transformation about. Without addit= ional help, i could at most agree to put out a simple bulletin, as earlier,= on a 2-3 monthly basis.<br> <br>In order to do the transformation, we'd need someone with programmi= ng skills (drupal or wordpress, CMS installation capacity), some graphic de= sign help, and editorial work help.<br><br>But this might also be the time = to pause and reflect - is keeping the WCN news organs going, something that= is desirable? (some have noticed it missing, and told me so) is it still s= omething that can be of support to the global carfree movement, even if the= World Carfree Network itself is not particularly active these times? If it= is desirable to keep, are there people around who have the will and the en= ergy to help make it happen?<br> <br>I'm happy to put in effort here - but it will be conditional on hav= ing a strategy that works. However if it is time to decide to put this on t= he backburner for now, and pursue other activities supportive of carfree ca= uses, i'm happy to hear what people think. if there is little comment a= nd mostly silence concerning this email, that is a kind of answer too.<br> <br>Thanks,<br>Justin<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">-- <br>-- <br= >You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google<br>Grou= ps "World Carfree Network" group.<br>To post to this group, send = email to <a href=3D"mailto:carfree_network-/[email protected]" target=3D"_bla= nk">carfree_network-/[email protected]</a><br> Replies are sent to the author of the message.<br>To unsubscribe from this = group, send email to<br><a href=3D"mailto:carfree_network-unsubscribe@googl= egroups.com" target=3D"_blank">carfree_network-unsubscribe-/[email protected]= </a><br> For more options, visit this group at<br><a href=3D"http://groups.google.co= m/group/carfree_network?hl=3Den?hl=3Den" target=3D"_blank">http://groups.go= ogle.com/group/carfree_network?hl=3Den?hl=3Den</a><br>--- <br>You received = this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "World Ca= rfree Network" group.<br> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to <a href=3D"mailto:carfree_network+unsubscribe-/[email protected]" tar= get=3D"_blank">carfree_network+unsubscribe-/[email protected]</a>.<br>For mor= e options, visit <a href=3D"https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out" targe= t=3D"_blank">https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out</a>.<br> =A0<br>=A0<u></u><u></u></p></div></div></blockquote></div> <p></p> -- <br /> -- <br /> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google<br /> Groups "World Carfree Network" group.<br /> To post to this group, send email to carfree_network-/[email protected]<br /> Replies are sent to the author of the message.<br /> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to<br /> carfree_network-unsubscribe-/[email protected]<br /> For more options, visit this group at<br /> <a href=3D"http://groups.google.com/group/carfree_network?hl=3Den?hl=3Den">= http://groups.google.com/group/carfree_network?hl=3Den?hl=3Den</a><br /> --- <br /> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups &= quot;World Carfree Network" group.<br /> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to carfree_network+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/[email protected]<br /> For more options, visit <a href=3D"https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out= ">https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out</a>.<br /> <br /> <br /> --bcaec5171ebfad2efe04d62e1851--