Re: Bulletin (+CB) to continue or not to continue?

Justin Hyatt <[email protected]> Thu, 21 Feb 2013 23:54:05 +0100
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Hi all,

thanks for the inputs and glad to see some discussion going on. I do agree
with Joel and Jason that a concise format is good to have, and i do believe
that in the age of instant messaging and tweeting, it is refreshing to have
something as (gasp) traditional as a bulletin. actually i think newsletters
are still quite common. i also think that printing them out in areas where
people might not be plugged into the internet around the clock is also
useful. and at least when i'm sitting in a cafe, if there is a mag or flyer
that catches my attention, i'll read it.

also nice to hear that there are people who hope for it to continue. please
keep up informing this list of your opinions it will be useful!! and
Pascal, would you mind stencilling the next issue for us? a big thanks in
advance :)

Justin

On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 7:17 PM, Pascal van den Noort <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Could we maybe consider stencilling :-)
>
>
> Pascal J.W. van den Noort
> Executive Director
> Velo Mondial, A Micro Multi-National
>
> [email protected]
>  +31206270675 landline
> +31627055688 mobile phone
>
> Velo Mondial's Blog
>
> Linkedin
>
> Click here for information on urban mobility issues you always wanted to
> have
>
>
> On 20 feb. 2013, at 21:08, J.H. Crawford <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> There are advantages to the bulletin format. Rather than getting your news
> a little bit at a time, you get a bunch of it all at once. I know it's not
> "modern," but it works for me.
>
> Joel
>
>
>
> I'm fairly shocked email lists and "bulletins" even still exist.  Just
> make a simple modern forum for all this discussion and use one that's
> smart-phone/tablet friendly too.
>
> On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 1:58 AM, Andrea Herrmann <<mailto:[email protected]<[email protected]>
> >[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> yes, I like this idea. Making the bulletin look nice and printing
> causes probably most of the time need and cost. So, it is better
> to have a lightweigt version of the bulletin than not having
> any at all.
>
> Keeping carfree activists worldwide connected and informed is important.
> And in times of economic crisis, it is even more important to
> celebrate carfree life. Because cars are unnecessary luxury
> that destroy enonomics means that could be invested better elsewhere.
> And many people can not afford cars and longer. They need our advice. :-)
>
> Justin, I would be willing to spend a bit more time in the
> newsletter. How can I help you?
>
> Andrea
>
>
>
> -------- Original-Nachricht --------
>
> Datum: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 10:33:04 -0500
> Von: "J.H. Crawford" <<mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>>
> [email protected]>
> An: <mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>>[email protected]
> CC: carfree_network <<mailto:carfree_network-/[email protected]<carfree_network-/[email protected]>
> >carfree_network-/[email protected]>
> Betreff: Re: [carfree_network] Bulletin (+CB) to continue or not to
>  continue?
>
>
>
> Hi Justin and others,
>
> First of all, thanks, Justin, for keeping this in front of us.
>
> In general, I do see some resurgence of interest in carfree cities.
> (Looking back, WCN died along with the rest of the global economy. Maybe
> the need
> for a shift to a green economy is driving some new interest in our ideas.)
> Traffic on my web site is back up, although not to pre-crash levels. For
> the first time in years I've been asked to make a major presentation
> (Stockholm), and Montreal is considering a large carfree development on
> the site
> of a former horse racing track.
>
> However, I don't think we can plan on a large increase in available time
> and energy. I would, therefore, suggest that if Justin is willing to do it,
> he put out an e-mail bulletin (simple, unformatted, with in-line links)
> every two or three months. That gets us most of the benefit of something
> more
> formal (and prettier!) at the minimum expenditure of effort.
>
> Yes, I know we like things to look nice and to be available in print, too,
> but that's not a realistic goal at this time, I think.
>
> What do others think?
>
> By the way, I REALLY need help promoting my videos. It's all I can do to
> get them made; getting people to watch is beyond me. Latest ones are at:
>
> <https://vimeo.com/jhcrawford/videos>https://vimeo.com/jhcrawford/videos
>
> Hitting Like after you watch is really important to spreading them.
>
> Best,
>
> Joel
>
>
> Dear Carbusting WCNers, WCN-loving Carbusters, and bulletin readers!
>
> As those of you following the bulletin - monthly carfree newsletter -
>
> should have read earlier, there was a decision made late last year to
> combine
> the Bulletin with Carbusters, and have both work in a combo way, on website
> and electronic distribution (with the possibility for local printing by
> interested orgs). Since then, an editors email group was started, to
> oversee
> this project. Yet precious little else has happened.
>
>
> I have come to realize that even on the editors group there are not a lot
>
> of people with lots of time on their hands, and I now see that more people
> will be needed who are enthusiastic, can at least commit to a certain (not
> huge, but useful) amount of time, and then work towards the goal. However,
> under the current conditions, I can not foresee myself mostly
> single-handedly bringing this CB-Bulletin joining/transformation about.
> Without
> additional help, i could at most agree to put out a simple bulletin, as
> earlier,
> on a 2-3 monthly basis.
>
>
> In order to do the transformation, we'd need someone with programming
>
> skills (drupal or wordpress, CMS installation capacity), some graphic
> design
> help, and editorial work help.
>
>
> But this might also be the time to pause and reflect - is keeping the WCN
>
> news organs going, something that is desirable? (some have noticed it
> missing, and told me so) is it still something that can be of support to
> the
> global carfree movement, even if the World Carfree Network itself is not
> particularly active these times? If it is desirable to keep, are there
> people
> around who have the will and the energy to help make it happen?
>
>
> I'm happy to put in effort here - but it will be conditional on having a
>
> strategy that works. However if it is time to decide to put this on the
> backburner for now, and pursue other activities supportive of carfree
> causes,
> i'm happy to hear what people think. if there is little comment and mostly
> silence concerning this email, that is a kind of answer too.
>
>
> Thanks,
> Justin
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Hi all,<br><br>thanks for the inputs and glad to see some discussion going =
on. I do agree with Joel and Jason that a concise format is good to have, a=
nd i do believe that in the age of instant messaging and tweeting, it is re=
freshing to have something as (gasp) traditional as a bulletin. actually i =
think newsletters are still quite common. i also think that printing them o=
ut in areas where people might not be plugged into the internet around the =
clock is also useful. and at least when i&#39;m sitting in a cafe, if there=
 is a mag or flyer that catches my attention, i&#39;ll read it.<br>
<br>also nice to hear that there are people who hope for it to continue. pl=
ease keep up informing this list of your opinions it will be useful!! and P=
ascal, would you mind stencilling the next issue for us? a big thanks in ad=
vance :)<br>
<br>Justin<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 7:17 P=
M, Pascal van den Noort <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:operations@=
velomondial.net" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>&gt;</span=
> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style=3D"word-wrap:break-word">Could we=
 maybe consider stencilling :-)<br><div><br><br>Pascal J.W. van den Noort<b=
r>
Executive Director=A0<br>Velo Mondial, A Micro Multi-National<br><br><a hre=
f=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">operations@velomo=
ndial.net</a>=A0<br>=A0<a href=3D"tel:%2B31206270675" value=3D"+31206270675=
" target=3D"_blank">+31206270675</a> landline<br>
<a href=3D"tel:%2B31627055688" value=3D"+31627055688" target=3D"_blank">+31=
627055688</a> mobile phone<br><br>Velo Mondial&#39;s Blog<br><br>Linkedin<b=
r><br>Click here for information on urban mobility issues you always wanted=
 to have<br>
<span style=3D"text-indent:0px;letter-spacing:normal;font-variant:normal;te=
xt-align:-webkit-auto;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;line-height:norm=
al;text-transform:none;font-size:medium;white-space:normal;font-family:Helv=
etica;word-spacing:0px"><span><img src=3D"" height=3D"206" width=3D"435"></=
span>
</span><br></div><div><div class=3D"h5"><br>On 20 feb. 2013, at 21:08, J.H.=
 Crawford &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">mail=
[email protected]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br><blockquote type=3D"cite"><br>There a=
re advantages to the bulletin format. Rather than getting your news a littl=
e bit at a time, you get a bunch of it all at once. I know it&#39;s not &qu=
ot;modern,&quot; but it works for me.<br>
<br>Joel<br><br><br><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">I&#39;m fairly shocked em=
ail lists and &quot;bulletins&quot; even still exist. =A0Just make a simple=
 modern forum for all this discussion and use one that&#39;s smart-phone/ta=
blet friendly too.<br>
<br>On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 1:58 AM, Andrea Herrmann &lt;&lt;<a href=3D"mai=
lto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">mailto:[email protected]</a>&gt;<a href=3D=
"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>&gt; wrote:<br>Hi=
,<br>
<br>yes, I like this idea. Making the bulletin look nice and printing<br>ca=
uses probably most of the time need and cost. So, it is better<br>to have a=
 lightweigt version of the bulletin than not having<br>any at all.<br><br>
Keeping carfree activists worldwide connected and informed is important.<br=
>And in times of economic crisis, it is even more important to<br>celebrate=
 carfree life. Because cars are unnecessary luxury<br>that destroy enonomic=
s means that could be invested better elsewhere.<br>
And many people can not afford cars and longer. They need our advice. :-)<b=
r><br>Justin, I would be willing to spend a bit more time in the<br>newslet=
ter. How can I help you?<br><br>Andrea<br><br><br><br>-------- Original-Nac=
hricht --------<br>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">Datum: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 10:33:04 -0500<br>Von: &q=
uot;J.H. Crawford&quot; &lt;&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" targ=
et=3D"_blank">mailto:[email protected]</a>&gt;<a href=3D"mailto:mailbox@c=
arfree.com" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>&gt;<br>
An: &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">mailto:justin@z=
ofi.hu</a>&gt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">justin@zo=
fi.hu</a><br>CC: carfree_network &lt;&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:carfree_network@=
googlegroups.com" target=3D"_blank">mailto:carfree_network-/[email protected]=
</a>&gt;<a href=3D"mailto:carfree_network-/[email protected]" target=3D"_blan=
k">carfree_network-/[email protected]</a>&gt;<br>
Betreff: Re: [carfree_network] Bulletin (+CB) to continue or not to =A0cont=
inue?<br></blockquote><br><blockquote type=3D"cite"><br>Hi Justin and other=
s,<br><br>First of all, thanks, Justin, for keeping this in front of us.<br=
>
<br>In general, I do see some resurgence of interest in carfree cities.<br>=
(Looking back, WCN died along with the rest of the global economy. Maybe th=
e need<br>for a shift to a green economy is driving some new interest in ou=
r ideas.)<br>
Traffic on my web site is back up, although not to pre-crash levels. For<br=
>the first time in years I&#39;ve been asked to make a major presentation<b=
r>(Stockholm), and Montreal is considering a large carfree development on t=
he site<br>
of a former horse racing track.<br><br>However, I don&#39;t think we can pl=
an on a large increase in available time<br>and energy. I would, therefore,=
 suggest that if Justin is willing to do it,<br>he put out an e-mail bullet=
in (simple, unformatted, with in-line links)<br>
every two or three months. That gets us most of the benefit of something mo=
re<br>formal (and prettier!) at the minimum expenditure of effort.<br><br>Y=
es, I know we like things to look nice and to be available in print, too,<b=
r>
but that&#39;s not a realistic goal at this time, I think.<br><br>What do o=
thers think?<br><br>By the way, I REALLY need help promoting my videos. It&=
#39;s all I can do to<br>get them made; getting people to watch is beyond m=
e. Latest ones are at:<br>
<br>&lt;<a href=3D"https://vimeo.com/jhcrawford/videos" target=3D"_blank">h=
ttps://vimeo.com/jhcrawford/videos</a>&gt;<a href=3D"https://vimeo.com/jhcr=
awford/videos" target=3D"_blank">https://vimeo.com/jhcrawford/videos</a><br=
><br>
Hitting Like after you watch is really important to spreading them.<br><br>=
Best,<br><br>Joel<br><br><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">Dear Carbusting WCNe=
rs, WCN-loving Carbusters, and bulletin readers!<br><br>As those of you fol=
lowing the bulletin - monthly carfree newsletter -<br>
</blockquote>should have read earlier, there was a decision made late last =
year to combine<br>the Bulletin with Carbusters, and have both work in a co=
mbo way, on website<br>and electronic distribution (with the possibility fo=
r local printing by<br>
interested orgs). Since then, an editors email group was started, to overse=
e<br>this project. Yet precious little else has happened.<br><blockquote ty=
pe=3D"cite"><br>I have come to realize that even on the editors group there=
 are not a lot<br>
</blockquote>of people with lots of time on their hands, and I now see that=
 more people<br>will be needed who are enthusiastic, can at least commit to=
 a certain (not<br>huge, but useful) amount of time, and then work towards =
the goal. However,<br>
under the current conditions, I can not foresee myself mostly<br>single-han=
dedly bringing this CB-Bulletin joining/transformation about. Without<br>ad=
ditional help, i could at most agree to put out a simple bulletin, as earli=
er,<br>
on a 2-3 monthly basis.<br><blockquote type=3D"cite"><br>In order to do the=
 transformation, we&#39;d need someone with programming<br></blockquote>ski=
lls (drupal or wordpress, CMS installation capacity), some graphic design<b=
r>
help, and editorial work help.<br><blockquote type=3D"cite"><br>But this mi=
ght also be the time to pause and reflect - is keeping the WCN<br></blockqu=
ote>news organs going, something that is desirable? (some have noticed it<b=
r>
missing, and told me so) is it still something that can be of support to th=
e<br>global carfree movement, even if the World Carfree Network itself is n=
ot<br>particularly active these times? If it is desirable to keep, are ther=
e people<br>
around who have the will and the energy to help make it happen?<br><blockqu=
ote type=3D"cite"><br>I&#39;m happy to put in effort here - but it will be =
conditional on having a<br></blockquote>strategy that works. However if it =
is time to decide to put this on the<br>
backburner for now, and pursue other activities supportive of carfree cause=
s,<br>i&#39;m happy to hear what people think. if there is little comment a=
nd mostly<br>silence concerning this email, that is a kind of answer too.<b=
r>
<blockquote type=3D"cite"><br>Thanks,<br>Justin<br><br>--<br>--<br>You rece=
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