Re: Problems for Ecotopia

"michel spaan" <[email protected]> Sun, 27 Jul 2003 15:27:15 +0000
Newsgroups gmane.politics.activism.ecotopia2003
Message-ID <[email protected]>
dear javier,
thank you for all your input, do not be distressed, this is all part of the 
transformation you are part of.  use all this to your advantage. i do not 
know enough about the situation to help out, but i do hope you all have 
dayly meetings in the morning or evening or both in wich you meditate 
together or sing songs together or do whatever creates a good group energy 
before you set out for the dayor night.  give eachother space, use a talking 
stick or symbolic object to take and hold whenever someone is expressing 
themselves, whilst the others listen. or let the object go around and let 
people say or do their thing (without taking too much time).
it is a big operation that you are part of and to have it all work without 
problems would be a miracle. we are all learning and growing and personally 
i am very impressed with what you all are pulling of. the world that we try 
to change is what it is largely because we don't know how to deal with 
situations like this in a non egoistic way, so right here, right now you can 
make a difference. take the oppertunity to do so.
i have been following ecotopia mail and i notice that slowly people are 
getting more and more frustrated. i seems that everybody in the group is 
doing their utmost best in their own way, so to improve on communication     
seems the most important.
have fun.....    see you later good man                 michel

>From: Jsvier Montellano <[email protected]>
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>To: [email protected], [email protected]
>CC: [email protected], [email protected]
>Subject: [Ecotopia2003] Problems for Ecotopia
>Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 13:43:11 +0200 (CEST)
>
>Dear All:
>
>There are some problems which have been making the
>organization of Ecotopia very tiresome, and now they
>are reaching a critical point.
>
>Some of it is personal between me and Tamara Malkova,
>another part is cultural or even historical, and a
>part is a matter of ways of working and treating
>people. It is important ot make a working analysis,
>which does not avoid the personal questions but has
>enough perspective .
>
>Compared with EYFA office and other groups, Green
>Dossier appears as a centralized organization with an
>institutional approach.
>
>And to organize Ecotopia by means of two to three days
>visits to talk with local authorities does not seem to
>fit with the whole idea. It is a totally top to bottom
>approach.
>
>Also, a way in which there is a strict division of
>tasks or "jobs" and little commmunication, or all the
>communication goes through one person.
>
>The rest of the people are left depending on her/him.
>In my case this dependence was speciallly severe
>becasue of language.
>
>This transform all relationships into a power game.
>
>And a strong resistance to share ideas and try to
>complement visions. In a way that can be even
>humiliating, as other people feel and are told not to
>be necessary.
>
>This is quite a barrier and quite a challenge
>(specially for the Welfare team). This lack of
>communication generates misunderstandings and this
>produces lack of trust.
>
>This is a real bottleneck. I prefer all of you to be
>aware of it before you come here.
>
>In my case, I will stay here. Working with people whom
>I do not trust and who do not trust me is much worse.
>I hope I can get enough support to start preparing a
>good Ectopia for everybody, in which also difficult
>issies can be discussed in a constructive way, and
>which can be a starting point for many other
>projects...
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