Re: Good science and Permaculture.

LL..I do not disagree with your sentiment "Steve, to have to be constantly
reminded of the negative forces we face saps our energy." but I find we
often miss the reality of ewhat actually is. The world is not really a warm
fuzzy place. Not yet. So to move forward I find we need to see the freality
first. we need to recognise where we have come from and why, it is all part
of the pathway..Steve

On 5 April 2018 at 11:14, Lawrence London <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at 5:37 PM, Steve Hart <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> > Financial reality..new economic theory....before we can realise a way
> > forward or even begin to see a pathway is to first fully understand the
> > history and where we have journeyed through that. The reality is we have
> > been dictated into a world of usery by one very small gang who dictate
> > every facet of the monetary system. Perhaps this is one reason why crypto
> > is taking off. People finally see a way out of the slavery. so before we
> > can move forward we need to recognise what we are part of and the reality
> > of how we are enslaved, and have been as part of a very well orchestrated
> > plan for centuries.
> >
>
> About the group in Mexico trying to find a safe place to live, after having
> left the violent criminal environment in their home countries:
>
> Yeah, send in the Army to protect the US from a little caravan of Hispanic
> folks from severely crime-ridden El Salvador and Honduras, huddled together
> for group safety trying to find some place to live where they are not
> constantly facing violent criminals. Makes sense. This touching display of
> fortitude, common sense and insistence on living in a civilized society
> sends a far greater message than a militaristic response to immigration
> issues.
>
>
> > So we need to see this and start lighting the fires. Demonstrate rather
> > than demonstrate..Steve Hart.
> >
> > On 4 April 2018 at 22:13, Lawrence London <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> Perhaps John Taylor Gatto is right..our education system has
> created a
> > > >> world full of mooorons.
> > > >>
> > > >> The education system is excellent and teachers are skilled and
> > > dedicated.
> > > > Students have to want to learn and become well-rounded, informed,
> > > > knowledgable, employable, skilled adults.
> > > > When AI, machine learning, quantum computing, robotics begins to
> > realize
> > > > its potential there will be far fewer jobs.
> > > > That is why I have advised forming communities physical and virtual,
> > > > establish cottage industries, build a free marketing network, find
> new
> > > > careers and livelihoods that are part of local, community economies.
> I
> > > > could go on about this for many ages. Maybe someone else has ideas.
> > > >
> > >
> > > One thing I was thinking recently after seeing a traditional Japanese
> > > craftsman making beautiful fountain pens from scratch was that I
> realized
> > > the value of small scale businesses of all sorts, people making things
> or
> > > making foods or performing services. Then I thought about how, under
> the
> > > right circumstances, communalism and collectivism need to continue to
> > exist
> > > as valued survival tools for humanity, but that those who promote them
> > need
> > > to focus more on the people who need it and how they, with the skills
> > they
> > > possess, can make use of it, preemptively, i.e. now rather than later
> or
> > > pie in the sky. Money rises to the top of the economic heirarchy like
> fat
> > > on the surface of the brew in the cauldron on the fire. If people don't
> > > take control of their lives they will face new difficulties surviving
> and
> > > become dependent not on their own skills but on welfare.
> > > In other words support your local economy, the kind that is independent
> > and
> > > sustained by the people who need it and who make it work. It is not
> > > difficult to see how this can work. It is obvious that what I am
> > proposing
> > > is not "taking back the wealth" but creating your own from scratch from
> > > work you do alone or with others, generating wealth for yourself and
> for
> > > those others who do the same, within the system they have created to
> > ensure
> > > their survival.
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Or are we all tooo busy in survival mode or just keeping abreast of
> all
> > > >> subjects in this fast moving changing world.
> > > >>
> > > >> All of the above. We would be doing this anyway.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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Environments, through Urban Design, Architecture, Landscape Architecture
and Systems Ecology.​*
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Phone: +64 220 75 62 11

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