Re: USDA Organic Integrity Database

On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 7:07 AM Rhonda Baird via permaculture <
permaculture-rm8PX32fqvbMZ2x0e22RKNi2O/[email protected]> wrote:

> Braden Trauth and some others set up and trademarked a certification based
> on permaculture called Permaganics Authenticated. Still in a roll-out
> phase, it is intended to help solve this problem.
>
> That is impressive. Please keep us informed about progress with adoption
of this certification. Do you have any links to websites for this?

> -Rhonda Baird
>
> > On Mar 18, 2019, at 10:06 PM, Lawrence London <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 18, 2019 at 9:31 PM Scott Pittman <[email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]>>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> We have the same problem in the U.S., Donica, the board of directors of
> >> the certifying agency has drifted more and more toward the corporate
> >> farmers and the fees are becoming to high for most small farmers.
> >
> >
> > Would you believe, those in the money loop simply tell the smaller
> farmers
> > who can not afford certification to "we, you can always get a grant" or
> > "turn your farm into a non-profit".
> > It is way beyond ludicrous to think that dedicated, skilled, committed
> > lifetime natural farmers intent on feeding their fellow Americans the
> best
> > they can produce, might have to "get a grant" in order to make enough
> money
> > to support themselves and their families. I mean, really. Having to
> become
> > a non profit is off the charts of ridiculousness.
> >
> >
> >> The
> >> local farmer's market hosts farmers who advertise on their product
> >> tables that they are "better than organic".  I support their boycott of
> >> the certification process and costs.
> >>
> >> That is trending and growing enormously in numbers of farmers self
> > labeling in a way that conveys the fact that they farm using natural
> > methods and materials and consistent with their farm ecology.
> >
> > Do you remember Eric Kindberg? He fought tooth and nail for farmers to
> > retain ownership of organic certification and labelling. The dominant
> > powers won and the government now owns it.
> > I vote for non certified organic or certified naturally grown or just
> clean
> > raised.
> >
> >
> >
> >>
> >> On 3/16/2019 5:43 PM, DONKA RADEVA via permaculture wrote:
> >>>  Ahh, this database is unfortunately not full at all, we have over 7000
> >> certified organic operators!
> >>> Though, in the last years many went bankrupt, as the local politics for
> >> certified organic is very unfavorable and this year there were protests
> >> against this discrimination policy comparing to conventional ...
> >>>
> >>> Best wishes,
> >>> Donka Radeva
> >>>
> >>>     On Saturday, March 16, 2019, 8:17:54 PM GMT+2, Lawrence London <
> >> [email protected]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>  Attn: Donka Radeva
> >>>
> >>> USDA Organic Integrity Database
> >>> https://organic.ams.usda.gov/Integrity/
> >>>
> >>> look at the entries in this certified organic organization database on
> >> the
> >>> first page
> >>> search for Bulgaria:
> https://organic.ams.usda.gov/Integrity/Search.aspx
> >>> just enter one word in the search form, Bulgaria
> >>> there are 73 certified organic operations in Bulgaria!
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