hoping for a response
Kendall Grant Clark <kendall-4GNy1lrxftmrG/[email protected]> Fri, 25 Apr 2003 12:10:45 -0500
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>>>>> "roy" == Roy Brock <[email protected]> writes: roy> Hoping to make up my own mind on this question, I have endeavoured roy> to seek out as many of the "racially charged" sites as possible. I roy> pour over each, and revisit often, to sense the convictions and roy> resolve of the authors. Every activity in which persons of this roy> country take part is described as either a right or a privilege. A roy> privilege can be defined as that status granted to a person by a roy> collective, and implies a reward for that status. A right is not roy> granted by a collective but is assumed to be possessed by every roy> member of a collective. You don't have to hope for a response, Roy. I consistently answer all inquiries about this subject. I'm curious as to why you might consider my site (I assume you're talking about whiteprivilege.com) to be "racially charged" -- though honestly I'm not really sure what you even mean by that phrase. As for "every activity" being a "right or a privilege", you didn't get that from me or my antiracism work. There are, after all, other kinds of activity in addition to rights and privileges; obligations and duties, social customs and mores, for example. As for your definitions of rights and privileges, I don't agree with them; but even if I did, you can't willy nilly define away this issue by trying to distinguish between rights and privileges in this way. Or so it seems to me. roy> Throughout your site, you continually refer to what you have roy> defined as "white privilege" without pointing out a single roy> example. Now I *know* that you haven't read my site carefully -- in fact, this is starting to smell like a form letter which you've sent to several sites. First, in my definition of white privilege, I call it a species of social privilege generally construed. It is uncontroversial that 1) there is such a thing as a social privilege, and 2) during the formal period of racial apartheid in the US, there were many racial privileges, including "owning other human beings". So the burden, it seems to me, is for people who deny there is such a thing as racial privilege to show *why there isn't any more*, since it's uncontroversial that there were such privileges in the (very recent) past. But there are dozens and dozens of posts on WhitePrivilege.com which point out *ongoing*, contemporary instances of racial privilege, including "exemption from racial profiling", "exemption from racial bias in hiring practices", "being judged by a jury of one's racial peers only", "having representative government unfairly represent one's interests to the detriment of the interests of others", and so on. If you are white, have you experienced special favors from roy> other whites because of your race, which awarded you a status not roy> enjoyed by other members of the American collective? Now I *really* know you are a troll and haven't read my site, in which I say repeatedly that I am a white person. You just haven't done your homework at all. Shame! If you are not roy> white, please help me to understand by giving an example of "white roy> privilege" that you feel the average white person in today's roy> political climate would understand. Why this very strange qualification "the average white person in today's political climate would understand"... That is strangely ad hoc. One of the fundamental strategies of racial oppression is to make its payoffs seem as natural as possible, which makes them very hard for the average beneficiary to *see*, given the status quo political climate. It's amazing that you have the temerity to suggest that I won't respond to this message, when in fact it's unclear you've earned the right of a response -- something you could have easily done by actually reading my site and sending a message specifically to me, rather than this generic troll you (appear to) have sent. Kendall Clark -- Jazz is only what you are. -- Louis Armstrong _______________________________________________ Bonobos maillist - Bonobos-4GNy1lrxftmrG/[email protected] http://monkeyfist.com/mailman/listinfo/bonobos