Re: Just more bullying?
Bijan Parsia <bparsia-vEoVa6Jh+/J4piUD7e9S/[email protected]>
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[snip mike's letter] Kendall did an excellent job in his response, so I'll avoid further point by point. But I'll chime in on the curiosity front: What's up Mike? :) Less snarkily, I do wonder if you (mike) have a line on the self-defense stuff. I spent some time yesterday trying to invent a scenario where bombing Afghanistan...even with the ostensible aim of hitting the Taliban *or* bin Laden...could remotely be justified as self-defense... ...and "Well we couldn't actually defend ourselves so we thought we'd do *this*." doesn't seem to work. Given that it's perfectly possible for the Sept. 11th attack to be completely illegitamate *AND* for the US response to be entirely, or mostly, "more bullying", it's not clear that your entire line of rebuttal isn't off-kilter. Indeed, isn't a fairly common line that goes, "A bullying response is exactly what the attackers hoped to provoke." Given all recent (and not so recent) US history, it's seems unreasonble to be very charitable toward our actions. Oh! Finally, it's pretty hard to see how even our wretched policies morally justify attacks against civilians. For example, I don't see anything in the general laws of war that justify Hamas' suicide attacks against Israeli civilians. That every nigh every "freedom fighter" group, especially those we've supported, does it doesn't make it right although it *does* make us hypocrites for opposing it in our enemies. Worse, using that as a pretext for 1) not solving the problems and 2) retaliating in like ways to a far larger degree. I say this *while* finding it very hard to straightforwardly oppose the right of armed resistence. But armed resistence shouldn't entail abandoning the laws of war. Cheers, Bijan.