Re: I Am Homophobic

benjamin a graffam <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.politics.leftists.monkeyfist
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	when making statements about the Bible I believe it is important to cite
where in the Bible it says things like supporting slavery, child abuse,
and banning mixed fiber clothing, etc and to put things into context. 
some people may have a differnet understanding of what they read,
otherwise if the passage is not cited by either party an argument based
solely on personal feelings could occur.  the danger in this is as humans
is that iron sharpens iron.  consequently not citing passages can be a
hinderence to dialogue, that is many times when exchange is done mostly
on an emotional level the volume in our voice increases but we are not
necessarily heard or understood any better.    A good example of this is
the treatment of Islam by the mainstreem media.  they keep insisting that
Islam is a religion of peace, have many 'experts' on TV who support this
notion, but I do not hear them quoting the Koran to support this idea. 
For all i know Osama could very well be putting what he reads in the
Koran in proper context, that is, his interpretations are appropiate
based on the text.  in a way the mainsteam media is preventing dialogue
by making statements and using 'experts' to back them up, rather then use
the Koran which is the basis for Islam.  last i checked the bible is the
basis for  Judaism and Christianity, and The Koran is the basis for
Islam.  'experts' are not the basis for any religion that i am aware even
exists.   peace. ben. 
On Wed, 5 Dec 2001 18:34:53 -0800 "damien" <[email protected]> writes:
> The Bible also supports slavery, child abuse and bans mixed-fiber 
> clothing.
> 
> http://www.specialrighteousness.org/scripture.html
> 
> http://www.bettybowers.com
> 
> Damien
>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: bonobos-admin-4GNy1lrxftmrG/[email protected] 
> [mailto:bonobos-admin-4GNy1lrxftmrG/[email protected]]On
> Behalf Of Jason & Kim Antley
>   Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 12:03 PM
>   To: bonobos-4GNy1lrxftmrG/[email protected]
>   Subject: [Bonobos] I Am Homophobic
> 
> 
>   What the writer of this article seems to misunderstand is, there 
> are
> "rights and wrongs" in our society.  The "rights and wrongs" in our 
> society
> are clearly defined in the Bible, the holy writing that the founding 
> fathers
> of our country clung to for dear life.  In the Bible, homosexuality 
> is
> severely condemned.  In Romans chapter 1, it is called the sin that
> signifies a person has reached the bottom of the "perversity 
> barrel."  We as
> Americans are to be kind to, and as a Judeo-Christian nation, we are 
> to love
> the sinner.  In the same vein of responsibility, we are to hate this 
> sin of
> perversity and teach our kids holiness, not tolerance.  Heterosexism 
> is
> biblical.  In short, we are to love the sinner yet hate the sin, 
> showing
> mercy and kindness to all, lest we ourselves be shown cruelty and 
> judgment
> by others in our time of failure.

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