Re: Criticizing Cornell By Kendall Clark
Kendall Clark <kendall-4GNy1lrxftmrG/[email protected]>
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>>>>> "david" == David Freels <[email protected]> writes: >> It should be no surprise that Harvard's new president, Lawrence >> Summers, recently asked Professor Cornel West to get serious >> about his scholarship. david> Didn't Summers tell all Harvard faculty members to spend more david> time teaching and publishing? My understanding is that he did david> not single out Cornell West. First, his name is "Cornel", despite the fact that someone at BlackElectorate mistyped the title as "Cornell" West. And, no, you're understanding is wrong. West was singled out by Summers for criticism. Even if West is the one who made that critcism public, my claims against Summers' are that he singled out West, not that he did so publicly. Besides, surely you'll concede that what a worker does or does not do during a medical leave from her or his place of employment is, for the most part, none of her or his employer's business. West is on leave to recover from *cancer*, for god's sake. What he does during his medical leave is, as long as it's legal, none of Larry Summers' business. Have you even listened to the CD that West made, which Summers' criticizes him for? Since it's full of the kind of work (in popular form) Harvard pays West for, what possible reason could Summers' have for attacking West? That it's in a popular art form? A popular form created and patronized by African Americans? You have so much concern about and censure for how, in your view, West is ruining the standards at Harvard -- though you show very little understanding of how a place like Harvard works; and forget that it's *Harvard*, since it runs, in relevant ways, more or less like *every* major university -- but you don't say *a single word* about the disgusting policies Summers' was urging as a Treasury bigwig? >> Though the word seems to have originated, according to Thomas >> Wolfe's reportage, anyway, among African American activists of >> the 1960s, it's only used now by Whites to denigrate African >> Americans who struggle politically. >> david> If all faculty members were being asked to return to the david> classroom They weren't. That's nonsensical on its face; the vast majority of Harvard faculty -- as at every other university -- spend most of their employment time *teaching* or preparing to teach. and Cornell West esacaped that return with cries of david> racism, then the "mau-mau" description seems accurate. You don't really understand very much about how universities are run, do you? The amount that West is required to teach, like *every other professor*, is a function of an employment contract. Unless West is *violating* that contract, which he clearly isn't, (since, if he were, that's what Harvard would be saying about West to shut him up), what he does in his own time is his own business. Just like what *you* do in *your* own time is none of your boss's business. >> one of the goals of becoming an academic star david> The goal of most academics is to engage in serious david> scholarship. Yes and no. Many of them just want to teach. Others want to do research. Still others want to do administrative stuff. Besides, I was specifying the subset of all academics who are "stars", that is, very well known inside and outside the university. If Mr. West is more interested in becoming a david> star of popular culture, perhaps he should consider a david> different line of work. You have simply no reason to assert that of West. It's clearly not what *I* said. Your mistaken view rests on another mistaken view: that popularizing a field of academic inquiry from within the university is *not* an academic endeavor. But it clearly and demonstrably is. david> Perhaps that is Mr. Summers view as well as Harvard is not a david> manufacturing plant of popular culture but is instead (and david> always has been) an institution devoted to higher learning. Heh, yeah, right. Tell that to Henry Kissinger! >> is so that you can teach less and do other stuff more? Every >> academic star of West's caliber david> Can you give three of four examples of other "academic david> stars"? No, I can give 50 examples. But maybe 3 or 4 will suffice: Thomas Sowell Shelby Steele Edward Said Noam Chomsky bell hooks Allan Bloom (deceased now) Lynn Cheney William Bennett (at one time) Leon Botstein (president of Bard, I may have his last name misspelled) david> Also, can you give three of four examples of other "academic david> stars of West's caliber"? Well, some of the aforementioned, plus: John Rawls Catherine MacKinnon Stephen Ambrose Carl Sagan (deceased) Richard Feynmann (deceased) David Gelernter (or Gelertner...) Ronald Dworkin Stephen Hawking Clifford Geertz Harold Bloom Stanley Fish Frederic Jameson Barbara Johnson Henry Louis Gates Jacques Derrida Michel Foucault (deceased) Richard Rorty I don't know what your point is, but there you go. >> spends less time teaching than engaging in one or another of the >> many activities that constitute the university as a social >> institution: research, grant-seeking, program - or >> discipline-formation, interdisciplinary conferencing, book or >> journal editing and writing, dissertation supervising, >> administrative work, and so on. david> Is there any evidence that Mr. West has ever engaged in any david> of these activities? Yes, there is. He's written or edited nearly 30 books! Do you think that's somehow *unserious* or *unscholarly* or *easy*? If so, you're either the most gifted writer working today or have never tried to write. >> >> All of which is an ordinary expression of the standard university >> reward system. david> It is my understanding that Harvard is not a "standard david> university"/average university--but in fact Harvard sets the david> standards. Well, Princeton, Yale, Stanford, Brown, Duke, University of Michigan, University of Texas, Univeristy of Virginia, Berkeley would all disagree. Harvard doesn't set any standards that are relevant here. Plus, you misread what I said: I didn't say Harvard was "standard", I said Harvard, like every other place, uses or employs an informal but fairly rigid professor-employee reward system in which teaching duties are often traded for other more glamorous, more fun, more financially rewarding, or whatever academic duties. Witness the Harvard Black Studies program itself, david> certainly one of the first. I think the new president just david> wants to maintain above-average standards. I'm pretty sure it's the "African American Studies" program, and whether Summers' wants to maintain high standards -- which is rather a tautology, yes? I mean what university president wants to *lower* standards? -- is not relevant. Chasing away Gates and West, which Summers' may do if he's not careful, is hardly *raising* the scholarly standard of the A-A dep't at Harvard. >> why is Summers hounding him? david> I think the reverse is true. West has hounded Summers--in the david> media. He's been mau-mauing him. West has certainly spoken up for himself, defended his record and achievements, against what he (and others) takes to be Summers' unjustified public attack. Funny that no one every uses the verb "mau-mau" to describe a white academic, and that black folks don't use the word to describe themselves. That alone makes it suspect. >> West's work is neither technical nor obscure but is accessible >> and critical. david> It's vague, inconclusive, nonsensical, and thus david> nonintellectual. Well, says you. For that to mean anything at all, you have to demonstrate that his work is 'vague, inconclusive, nonsensical' rather than merely assert it. Are you prepared to do that? I'd really love to get in your response to this message a 2,000 to 5,000 essay backing up your claims about West's work. It's just not possible to survey 30 published works and countless articles in less than that. Put up or shut up. david> Of what relevance to anything are Al Sharpton and Cornell david> West? Your ignorance of a fact doesn't mean it's not a fact. At the very least Al Sharpton is of great political relevance to many people in New York City and to others across the country. You may not know or like the fact, but Sharpton has real political power, and that doesn't flow from being irrelevant. As for West, he's relevant enough at Harvard that Summers' decided to pick him out for criticism. And he is one of the leading African American intellectuals, not that I'd expect you to know or care much about that, given your comments and tone in this message. So, feel free to respond to any or all of the above, but you really *must* either substantiate your claim West's work is "vague, inconclusive, and nonsensical" or you recant. Oh, by the way, if the best you can do is point to Leon Wieseltier's hit piece on West in TNR a few years ago, don't bother. I've read it and was wholly unconvinced. Kendall Clark